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Ahh okay. Thanks for the clarification. I actually am starting to like the KCS site assuming they work with them to get it to be more than just a garage. Good place to handle traffic and keep it away from 12th and wyandotte area.

Parking lot has a Block for sale sign up

https://www.crexi.com/properties/521539 ... -wyandotte

$7.1 million

normalthings wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:28 am https://www.crexi.com/properties/521539 ... -wyandotte

$7.1 million

That's awfully steep.

I noticed Bill Maas is the listing agent. Wonder if he'll throw in an autographed football to justify that price for a hole in the ground!

I never expected 2 half circle towers

^That looks thrown together quickly for eye candy purposes only, pasted on top of unmodified surface lot image. But would be nice to see some drastically different architecture in this territory, outside boxy buildings.

Maybe someone will look at it and run with the design

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:20 am

I think it has the potential to be nice if time and money and effort was spent on the design.

That dual curved town is a horrible urban design. I like the curved look but there's no street presence with huge setbacks.

It wastes the parcel size to put height in which unnecessarily increases the cost and makes it much less likely to happen

Completely rethink it as shorter and squatter and it could work

Please put something there that covers up the blank walls of the P&L Building, and the Crowne Plaza Hotel.

Highly likely something like that would have big garage as base for entire lot with this on top. And green space otherwise on garage platform. But garage should be hidden as much as possible with ped friendly street level.

If I were designing one I would make a garage that's a functional extension of the P&L + hotel garage and share the parking space as one big structure. This would enable multiple entrances and better sharing of all the spots.

It would be more complex than a brand new garage, but everyone benefits from more shared spaces.

earthling wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:52 pm Highly likely something like that would have big garage as base for entire lot with this on top. And green space otherwise on garage platform. But garage should be hidden as much as possible with ped friendly street level.

You could probably get 2 or 3 floors below ground without breaking the bank. WR really “needed” just 4 or 5 floors of parking.

normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:33 pm

earthling wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:52 pm Highly likely something like that would have big garage as base for entire lot with this on top. And green space otherwise on garage platform. But garage should be hidden as much as possible with ped friendly street level.

You could probably get 2 or 3 floors below ground without breaking the bank. WR really “needed” just 4 or 5 floors of parking.

Subtract 2 or 3 floors belowground for affordable housing, parking minimums, mixed use demands, etc

flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:20 pm

normalthings wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:33 pm

earthling wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:52 pm Highly likely something like that would have big garage as base for entire lot with this on top. And green space otherwise on garage platform. But garage should be hidden as much as possible with ped friendly street level.

You could probably get 2 or 3 floors below ground without breaking the bank. WR really “needed” just 4 or 5 floors of parking.

Subtract 2 or 3 floors belowground for affordable housing, parking minimums, mixed use demands, etc

Not 100% sure what you are saying. But..... I think the northern lot is about 2-3 floors below grade already.

"There's not much land left in downtown Kansas City," Maas said. lol

I just realized you can see a garage and entrance if you zoom in. The rendering is a 38-floor design that was scaled down to show what a 26-floor building could look like on the site. That is also why so much of the lot is left empty in the rendering.