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Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:58 pm
by DaveKCMO
Good catch. I'll ask if they've run into problems heading west from here, which would explain that shift to the existing sidewalk area rather than along the railroad tracks.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:02 pm
by normalthings
Chris Stritzel wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:35 pm We will see more refined renderings soon enough. These look like a way to establish a basic massing.

Rendering observations: The Podium project is rendered as well as the widely talked about "Green Line". I notice that the Green Line switches over to 22nd Street at the Pedestrian Bridge
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You forgot to mention the iconic SketchUp orbit tool icon! I am hoping that the Podium side moves forward quickly. Interesting that it is included in Helix's model for this project.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:06 pm
by Chris Stritzel
DaveKCMO wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:58 pm Good catch. I'll ask if they've run into problems heading west from here, which would explain that shift to the existing sidewalk area rather than along the railroad tracks.
Maybe the move of the Green Line is to be a selling point for the walk-up style units on 22nd Street. I imagine that marketing could be "these units are along the Green Line pedestrian trail, connecting you to restaurants, shops, job centers and more". That could be a good selling point.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:53 pm
by normalthings
Chris Stritzel wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:06 pm
DaveKCMO wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:58 pm Good catch. I'll ask if they've run into problems heading west from here, which would explain that shift to the existing sidewalk area rather than along the railroad tracks.
Maybe the move of the Green Line is to be a selling point for the walk-up style units on 22nd Street. I imagine that marketing could be "these units are along the Green Line pedestrian trail, connecting you to restaurants, shops, job centers and more". That could be a good selling point.
Greenline will front the tracks within the Freight House property.

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The school district and TIF were all over this change to the project ("adding more units" by reducing the average unit size and the 19 new units along 22nd street). They are soo against changing the project for the better. The level of anti-development sentiment is troubling to say the least.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:15 pm
by TheLastGentleman
normalthings wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:53 pmGreenline will front the tracks within the Freight House property.

The school district and TIF were all over this change to the project. They are soo against changing the project for the better. The level of anti-development sentiment is troubling to say the least.
I don't follow

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:39 pm
by DaveKCMO
I sincerely doubt the KCPS had an official opinion about the location of the trail. I will find out from the source.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:38 pm
by normalthings
DaveKCMO wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:39 pm I sincerely doubt the KCPS had an official opinion about the location of the trail. I will find out from the source.
Not the trail. The change to "add" units by making them smaller and adding units along the street which was not included in the original Tracks 215 plan.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:35 pm
by TheLastGentleman
normalthings wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:38 pmNot the trail. The change to "add" units by making them smaller and adding units along the street.
I’m still confused. Are there not units along the street in the renderings? And what are your sources?

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:45 pm
by Chris Stritzel
It may have been mentioned in a Zoom meeting, of which I have access too. Unsure about Normal Things. I'll have to watch and listen carefully.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:34 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Public meeting scheduled for March 29th at 6 PM

https://zoom.us/j/95000342917?pwd=a0ZLd ... cxU3kwQT09
(ID: 95000342917, passcode: 313077)

https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... ttachments

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:21 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Chris Stritzel wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:34 pm Public meeting scheduled for March 29th at 6 PM

https://zoom.us/j/95000342917?pwd=a0ZLd ... cxU3kwQT09
(ID: 95000342917, passcode: 313077)

https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... ttachments
This meeting was tonight. Not many attendees. According to a guy speaking, the metal over the front entrance will be perforated so that it glows at night. In addition to that, an emphasis on having the building designed to match the neighborhood was made often. New rendering and other stuff...
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Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:15 pm
by beautyfromashes
Left the trash receptacles right at the front entrance where everyone will be walking into their building. smh.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:41 pm
by grovester
Someone needs to call a meeting in front of those when the weather starts warming up.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:53 pm
by normalthings
beautyfromashes wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:15 pm Left the trash receptacles right at the front entrance where everyone will be walking into their building. smh.
The "receptacle" on the TRACKS property is a KCPL transformer. The architect said that it and the attached line feeds much of the neighorhood and is not feasible to move.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:04 pm
by Critical_Mass
normalthings wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:53 pm
beautyfromashes wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:15 pm Left the trash receptacles right at the front entrance where everyone will be walking into their building. smh.
The "receptacle" on the TRACKS property is a KCPL transformer. The architect said that it and the attached line feeds much of the neighorhood and is not feasible to move.
Looks like they are screening it and turning it into a signage element. Pretty clever!

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:29 pm
by Chris Stritzel
normalthings wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:53 pm
beautyfromashes wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:15 pm Left the trash receptacles right at the front entrance where everyone will be walking into their building. smh.
The "receptacle" on the TRACKS property is a KCPL transformer. The architect said that it and the attached line feeds much of the neighorhood and is not feasible to move.
The trash for the Jack Stack restaurant is right there though.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:17 am
by KCPowercat
And it's not on the property they can modify. Hard to blame them for not removing it.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:03 am
by TheLastGentleman
If you have a problem with smelly trash, cities probably aren’t for you

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:35 pm
by GRID
I like this project and as somebody that loves trains, it would be cool to have a place overlooking some of the busiest freight tracks in the country.

Re: Tracks 215 Project

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:20 pm
by DaveKCMO
Project is good news for stormwater management, too -- the exposed amenities will absorb some, in addition to the larger street tree wells and required underground retention.