3rd & Grand to be redeveloped as TOD

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Riverite wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:09 am It feels like the city is bending over backwards for this developer, I could be wrong, but why don’t they have to replace the parking and ata has to lease?
Many reasons:

ATA might not want to forever have a transit hub there. KC and ATA want to move parking away from the core of the market. The project looks to preserve much of the surface spaces for now.
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A park-and-ride in the middle of city never made sense.
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DaveKCMO wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:58 pm A park-and-ride in the middle of city never made sense.
It’s because it’s not one, not really

https://ridekc.org/locations/3rd_grand

Only ~35 out of ~175 spots are for transit use

It’s more like there was a parking lot at a convenient spot for bus transfers and the ATA bought it to have more control.
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DaveKCMO wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:58 pm A park-and-ride in the middle of city never made sense.
Exactly. In reality it was always just free parking
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Apparently this project is moving forward again. Back on TIO docket this week.
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kboish wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:58 am Apparently this project is moving forward again. Back on TIO docket this week.
Is this apartment or office?
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Previous iterations were focused on apartments. I dont know if there are any changes in the latest version
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kboish wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:58 am Apparently this project is moving forward again. Back on TIO docket this week.
TIO?
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Transportation Infrastructure and Operations is the name of the committee whose docket this project landed on.

Just flipping through the agendas of the council committees gives you a preview of development discussion for the week.
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kboish wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:50 pm Transportation Infrastructure and Operations is the name of the committee whose docket this project landed on.

Just flipping through the agendas of the council committees gives you a preview of development discussion for the week.
Ah, infinitely useful info there, thanks a million
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“3G Development's 3rd & Grand TOD has been working through challenges for more than a year. The site has concurrent depth and height limits, and shrank from a right-of-way increase for a future bike lane. But a 246-unit version will seek property tax abatement from PIEA next week.”

https://twitter.com/kcbj_thomas/status/ ... _oWV2522FQ

Next week they seek tax abatement
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Damn bike lanes!
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KCPowercat wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:00 pm Damn bike lanes!
I think this was a bigger issue than one may think. Bunch said no moving forward unless there was space for a bike way but also didn’t provide details on how much space was needed. There was a bit of an argument in council about it last year
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normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:53 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:00 pm Damn bike lanes!
I think this was a bigger issue than one may think. Bunch said no moving forward unless there was space for a bike way but also didn’t provide details on how much space was needed. There was a bit of an argument in council about it last year
But I guess he won that battle, right?
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normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:53 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:00 pm Damn bike lanes!
I think this was a bigger issue than one may think. Bunch said no moving forward unless there was space for a bike way but also didn’t provide details on how much space was needed. There was a bit of an argument in council about it last year
I mean it's TOD, yes bike lanes should be made a priority. No way it blew up the entire project. If it did, dumb developer not considering it.
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KCPowercat wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:45 pm
normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:53 pm
KCPowercat wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:00 pm Damn bike lanes!
I think this was a bigger issue than one may think. Bunch said no moving forward unless there was space for a bike way but also didn’t provide details on how much space was needed. There was a bit of an argument in council about it last year
I mean it's TOD, yes bike lanes should be made a priority. No way it blew up the entire project. If it did, dumb developer not considering it.
It’s been a while, I’m sure I posted the meetings notes before.iirc Developer was like sure just tell us how much but no one knew how much because it was yet too be determined.

The subsurface infrastructure has been a major pinch point. Expensive to work around
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When would they start building this?
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PIEA voted no. Think this passed all requirements in place when they applied
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I think this tells you how the development of midtown along the streetcar fares.
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