OFFICIAL - 1914 Main

Issues concerning Downtown as described by the Downtown Council. River to 31st Street, I-35 to Bruce R. Watkins.
brewcrew1000
Hotel President
Hotel President
Posts: 3111
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:10 am
Location: Broadway/Gilham according to google maps

Re: 1914 Main

Post by brewcrew1000 »

I agree that retail needs to be subsidized but how do you do it and has it been done? It seems like we just give the subsidies to the big corporations that dont need them in the first place.

Its amazing how much retail is in Europe cities small and large, you can go Sluis Netherlands, town of 2000, you can find all kinds of retail like an Aldi, Esprit, and tons of other clothing stores and people are walking around and shopping. In Brussels, you can find a bookstore that is just all travel books, nothing else. If you tried to do that here you would probably be laughed at and mocked for starting something so stupid.
Last edited by brewcrew1000 on Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
aknowledgeableperson
City Center Square
City Center Square
Posts: 12650
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:31 pm

Re: 1914 Main

Post by aknowledgeableperson »

"I agree that retail needs to be subsidized but how do you do it and has it been done?"

Isn't the grocery store subsidized?
User avatar
DaveKCMO
Ambassador
Posts: 20063
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Crossroads
Contact:

Re: 1914 Main

Post by DaveKCMO »

aknowledgeableperson wrote:"I agree that retail needs to be subsidized but how do you do it and has it been done?"

Isn't the grocery store subsidized?
i would say it is. all of cosentino's parking was built, paid for, and is operated by the city. no clue if they're paying less than market rate rent (although i wouldn't be surprised, since groceries are a low-margin business).
loftguy
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3850
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:12 pm

Re: 1914 Main

Post by loftguy »

The City Market is owned by the city of Kansas City, Missouri. Unique, small, entrepreneurial spaces which are limited to local businesses.

Could this model be utilized for broader retail offerings? 100 to 1,500 square foot storefronts?
User avatar
FangKC
City Hall
City Hall
Posts: 18233
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:02 pm
Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound

Re: 1914 Main

Post by FangKC »

Kansas City streetcar line drew developers to build apartments on Main Street
Scott Richardson read something about a streetcar line being installed in Kansas City and smelled a development possibility.

“I came and spent an afternoon walking the entire route, writing down notes about potential properties,” said the Denver-based real estate developer with Linden Street Partners.

His investigative stroll in 2014 brought Linden Street into the Kansas City market with two purchases, a parking lot bought from a bank that had foreclosed on it and a former newspaper warehouse.

The former parking lot, now with an address of 1914 Main St., has become a new five-story, 44-unit apartment building that overlooks the streetcar line. Units are expected to be ready for tenants March 1.

The vacant warehouse, at 1721-1723 Walnut St., will be converted to apartments, with an expected 10-month renovation timeline starting in April.

Despite the competitive flood of new apartments in the River Market, Quality Hill and Crown Center and the tsunami of residential conversions in historic downtown and River Market buildings, Richardson is confident in Linden Street’s investment.

“It’s the first ground-up apartments to open directly on the streetcar line,” he said. “We’re not as amenity-rich as some of the apartments that have pools and health clubs, but we’re counting on the city location as our amenity.”
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business ... 20493.html
User avatar
DaveKCMO
Ambassador
Posts: 20063
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Crossroads
Contact:

Re: 1914 Main

Post by DaveKCMO »

Image
User avatar
DaveKCMO
Ambassador
Posts: 20063
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Crossroads
Contact:

Re: 1914 Main

Post by DaveKCMO »

grand opening march 8. move-ins on march 10.
User avatar
beautyfromashes
One Park Place
One Park Place
Posts: 7290
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:04 am

Re: 1914 Main

Post by beautyfromashes »

Does no one else find the gray exterior paneling cheap looking? Looks like shed siding.
User avatar
DaveKCMO
Ambassador
Posts: 20063
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Crossroads
Contact:

Re: 1914 Main

Post by DaveKCMO »

beautyfromashes wrote:Does no one else find the gray exterior paneling cheap looking? Looks like shed siding.
better than old-timey brick or stucco.
flyingember
Mark Twain Tower
Mark Twain Tower
Posts: 9862
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:54 am

Re: 1914 Main

Post by flyingember »

beautyfromashes wrote:Does no one else find the gray exterior paneling cheap looking? Looks like shed siding.
Nope.

I just notice it's next to the street
User avatar
beautyfromashes
One Park Place
One Park Place
Posts: 7290
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:04 am

Re: 1914 Main

Post by beautyfromashes »

It's all dented up already too. Was there a recent hail storm in KC recently?
hgascoigne
Supporter
Posts: 89
Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:06 pm

Re: 1914 Main

Post by hgascoigne »

DaveKCMO wrote:better than old-timey brick or stucco.
Hey, you be nice to Centropolis.
flyingember
Mark Twain Tower
Mark Twain Tower
Posts: 9862
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:54 am

Re: 1914 Main

Post by flyingember »

beautyfromashes wrote:It's all dented up already too. Was there a recent hail storm in KC recently?
the flat 3d look is a legitimate technique to hide environmental damage
User avatar
DaveKCMO
Ambassador
Posts: 20063
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Crossroads
Contact:

Re: 1914 Main

Post by DaveKCMO »

ribbon cutting today. the views are great!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business ... 28522.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... ml?ana=twt

just a reminder that there are 27 parking spaces for 44 units...
geeman68
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 664
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:22 am
Location: Kansas City, MO

Re: 1914 Main

Post by geeman68 »

DaveKCMO wrote:ribbon cutting today. the views are great!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business ... 28522.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... ml?ana=twt

just a reminder that there are 27 parking spaces for 44 units...
They intend these to provide for people that don't intend to have cars and use transit options/Uber.
User avatar
DaveKCMO
Ambassador
Posts: 20063
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Crossroads
Contact:

Re: 1914 Main

Post by DaveKCMO »

corrigan station will be under-parked, too.
earthling
Mark Twain Tower
Mark Twain Tower
Posts: 8519
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:27 pm
Location: milky way, orion arm

Re: 1914 Main

Post by earthling »

Will be curious to see if leasing will be a challenge for units with no parking. In past cheap units not usually an issue but what about above avg priced buildings? Many would expect parking option.
User avatar
DaveKCMO
Ambassador
Posts: 20063
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Crossroads
Contact:

Re: 1914 Main

Post by DaveKCMO »

earthling wrote:Will be curious to see if leasing will be a challenge for units with no parking. In past cheap units not usually an issue but what about above avg priced buildings? Many would expect parking option.
it's not a problem today. several downtown residential buildings don't come with off-street parking -- the star lofts immediately comes to mind.
flyingember
Mark Twain Tower
Mark Twain Tower
Posts: 9862
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:54 am

Re: 1914 Main

Post by flyingember »

Union Carbide residential is somewhat close. It's really poorly designed garage (triple deep parking spots and a single lane ramp to the basement) is shared with other buildings around it during the day for business users.

And they never had problems in the past filling units even with the weird parking situation.
loftguy
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3850
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:12 pm

Re: 1914 Main

Post by loftguy »

DaveKCMO wrote:
earthling wrote:Will be curious to see if leasing will be a challenge for units with no parking. In past cheap units not usually an issue but what about above avg priced buildings? Many would expect parking option.
it's not a problem today. several downtown residential buildings don't come with off-street parking -- the star lofts immediately comes to mind.
Believe you can add these to the list:
1006 Grand
Waltower 823 Walnut
Chase Lofts 200 Delaware - none
Askew Saddlery 213 Delaware (partial parking)
Volker Lofts 10 W. 3rd (partial)
116 West 3rd - none
Pacific House Lofts 401 Delaware (partial)
Professional Building Lofts 1100 Grand (partial)
Adelman-Fisher Lofts 211 Walnut - none

Also maybe the building at 1601 Grand?
Post Reply