chingon wrote:
Those "photos of girls underwater" photos remind me why I don't really think photography can be art.
What makes a film/sensor behind a set of lens any less worthy of creating art than a bunch of pigments suspended in linseed oil and moved around with a set of bristles?
To create compositions like what has been done by guys such as Horst P Horst or Phillipe Halsman requires more than a bit of artistic vision.
For that reason, I'm not one to disparage much of contemporary art as not being "art"; despite my dislike for much of it (I don't care if he's iconic; I despise Warhol's stuff immensely).
Whether it's good art on the other hand...
chingon wrote:
Those "photos of girls underwater" photos remind me why I don't really think photography can be art.
What makes a film/sensor behind a set of lens any less worthy of creating art than a bunch of pigments suspended in linseed oil and moved around with a set of bristles?
To create compositions like what has been done by guys such as Horst P Horst or Phillipe Halsman requires more than a bit of artistic vision.
For that reason, I'm not one to disparage much of contemporary art as not being "art"; despite my dislike for much of it (I don't care if he's iconic; I despise Warhol's stuff immensely).
Whether it's good art on the other hand...
Anyone can get lucky by taking an amazing picture. It takes someone with a trained/artistic eye to be able to pick the 6 photos out of 1000 that should be put on the wall.
sorry about the mercedes thing on wyandotte. hopefully it won't happen again. while there are no rules and no centralized planning for first friday, rampant consumer brand displays are discouraged (especially if there's no art component).
DaveKCMO wrote:sorry about the mercedes thing on wyandotte. hopefully it won't happen again. while there are no rules and no centralized planning for first friday, rampant consumer brand displays are discouraged (especially if there's no art component).
Did anyone get pictures of this? I had something come up and couldn't make it out to First Friday, but everything about this Merecedes event sounded terrible.
DaveKCMO wrote:sorry about the mercedes thing on wyandotte. hopefully it won't happen again. while there are no rules and no centralized planning for first friday, rampant consumer brand displays are discouraged (especially if there's no art component).
Did anyone get pictures of this? I had something come up and couldn't make it out to First Friday, but everything about this Merecedes event sounded terrible.
DaveKCMO wrote:sorry about the mercedes thing on wyandotte. hopefully it won't happen again. while there are no rules and no centralized planning for first friday, rampant consumer brand displays are discouraged (especially if there's no art component).
I assumed it was performance art/sophomoric critique of consumerism.
Belger has some cool photographs of the Bannister Complex, including the old KC Speedway at 95 and Troost. They referred to it as a town called ? Started with an M. What was that area called before annexation?
Also went to the Crane Yard at 22nd and Tracy. Very cool building. Look forward to taking a tour of it and the area during daylight hours. We went for the Shimomura exhibit, but all 3 artists were outstanding. That crowd was definitely upper crust art aficionados.
edit: My bad 95th and Troost was called "Dodson". Never heard that before.
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grovester wrote:Belger has some cool photographs of the Bannister Complex, including the old KC Speedway at 95 and Troost. They referred to it as a town called ? Started with an M. What was that area called before annexation?
Also went to the Crane Yard at 22nd and Tracy. Very cool building. Look forward to taking a tour of it and the area during daylight hours. We went for the Shimomura exhibit, but all 3 artists were outstanding. That crowd was definitely upper crust art aficionados.
edit: My bad 95th and Troost was called "Dodson". Never heard that before.
Not quite sure "Dodson" extended to that area. Dodson refers to the area by 85th and Prospect, or the area at the end of the line of the Country Club streetcar. Immediately west of that area is the Marlborough neighborhood.
Would love to see FF come back bigger and better than ever after Corona. From my experience, FF is the primary means for exposing and "advertising" downtown to suburbanites and especially teenagers and college-aged persons.
normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:24 pm
Would love to see FF come back bigger and better than ever after Corona. From my experience, FF is the primary means for exposing and "advertising" downtown to suburbanites and especially teenagers and college-aged persons.
Nope.
The galleries aren't interested, the local food truck scene is a Wild West of code violations, nor does the neighborhood association that tried to manage the shit show it became in 2019 have the resources to bring it back in the midst of a recession. The August shooting really sealed the deal.
There's enough non-FF content -- breweries, restaurants, distilleries, and eventually dispensaries -- to drive regular crowds.
normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:24 pm
Would love to see FF come back bigger and better than ever after Corona. From my experience, FF is the primary means for exposing and "advertising" downtown to suburbanites and especially teenagers and college-aged persons.
I’d say National TV coverage of downtown KC during big 12 and the Super Bowl for example do more than about 200 first Friday’s.
normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:24 pm
Would love to see FF come back bigger and better than ever after Corona. From my experience, FF is the primary means for exposing and "advertising" downtown to suburbanites and especially teenagers and college-aged persons.
I’d say National TV coverage of downtown KC during big 12 and the Super Bowl for example do more than about 200 first Friday’s.
Seems like two different audiences are being talked about here. First is more the metro residents, 2nd is national.
normalthings wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:24 pm
Would love to see FF come back bigger and better than ever after Corona. From my experience, FF is the primary means for exposing and "advertising" downtown to suburbanites and especially teenagers and college-aged persons.
I’d say National TV coverage of downtown KC during big 12 and the Super Bowl for example do more than about 200 first Friday’s.
Seems like two different audiences are being talked about here. First is more the metro residents, 2nd is national.
True. I just feel the TV coverage gives downtown the “cool” factor to those living in the burbs and or college kids much more than FF. I constantly hear younger folks walking by PNL and saying, “this is where those watch parties happened” and when I talk to someone about what it’s like to live downtown, those big sports memories are the first topics they ask about.
There are some challenges for FF, but I think the leadership of the City see it as a major bright spot to unite the community every month and showcase the "downtown" general area. I agree the galleries will not push hard for it, as it had become almost non-existent about art the last 3-4 years, compared to when it had originally started. True there is also enough entertainment in the cross roads now to sustain weekend business once we are allowed to be social humans again. But I do say there is enough at stake, politically, economically, and culturally to bring back FF in some form or another. Even if it is more of a marketing ploy where bars and restaurants offer specials or discounts once a month in the area to draw people in, and perhaps there will be special events with live music, etc. But I do see it coming back in some form as a way to monthly give people in the suburbs a specific reason to venture out at least once a month.
