Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by missingkc » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:32 am

Yes, the big, empty lot.

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by moderne » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:59 am

There was a proposal to put a Hilton 800-1000 room on that lot in the early nineties.

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by Rabble » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:59 pm

There was a second building at this location as part of the original bid package for the KCS HQ. Not a twin but about the same size.

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by missingkc » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:59 pm

I thought I remembered something like that, Moderne. And, if I remember correctly, the family had no interest in selling. Of course, that was a long time ago. Perhaps they'll be receptive, now.

Also, if the city acquires the land and decides to build a parking deck, is there a way they could seek a developer to add additional use - office or residential - and offer use of the deck as an incentive?

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by FangKC » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:51 pm

One would hope the City would consider some mixed use component. A street-grade restaurant on the corner would be nice. There are several hundred new residents west of Broadway in the new apartment communities. KCS, HNTB, Turner Construction, Americo, and DST employees might like a new eatery in the neighborhood. You'd also get some possible business from the Folly, Music Hall, and on Sundays from nearby churches.

New build would allow infrastructure for a kitchen, whereas many of the older spaces downtown weren't designed to easily adapt for that.

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by smh » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:09 pm

FangKC wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:51 pm
One would hope the City would consider some mixed use component. A street-grade restaurant on the corner would be nice. There are several hundred new residents west of Broadway in the new apartment communities. KCS, HNTB, Turner Construction, Americo, and DST employees might like a new eatery in the neighborhood. You'd also get some possible business from the Folly, Music Hall, and on Sundays from nearby churches.

New build would allow infrastructure for a kitchen, whereas many of the older spaces downtown weren't designed to easily adapt for that.
There is no reason to build a standalone garage, even if it includes a minor retail component. As you stated, this should be a mixed-use project including office, and perhaps residential. We can't let them build another Wolf garage.

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by FangKC » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:58 pm

Actually the Hyatt House atop a garage makes more sense at 12th and Broadway than at 9th and Broadway, then add some apartments on top of that. There would be some good views.

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by TheLastGentleman » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:11 pm

FangKC wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:58 pm
Actually the Hyatt House atop a garage makes more sense at 12th and Broadway than at 9th and Broadway, then add some apartments on top of that. There would be some good views.
I still like the 9th and broadway location. It will have a more unique set of views

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by KCPowercat » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:16 pm

I couldn't watch it all but Hall and Shields were both pushing back in the 12th and Broadway land purchase for a cheap garage. That have me a little bit of faith.

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by FangKC » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:10 am

Kevin Collison reports the Council has rejected the proposal to purchase the 12th & Broadway lot to build a parking garage.

https://twitter.com/kckansascity/status ... 33153?s=20

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by normalthings » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:53 am

FangKC wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:10 am
Kevin Collison reports the Council has rejected the proposal to purchase the 12th & Broadway lot to build a parking garage.

https://twitter.com/kckansascity/status ... 33153?s=20
Lucas is right, there are much higher purposes that this lot could be used for.

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Re: Fantasy Retrofits: Barney Allis Plaza

Post by KCPowercat » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:45 am

Great to hear.

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