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Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:54 pm
by FangKC
flyingember wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:38 am
We shouldn't be memorializing bad actions of the past.

... A part of the sculpture garden dedicated to memorials of the past would fit in.

Where the structure has no physical connection rename and re-associate, like the JC Nichols fountain.
Set aside some land for the memorials and call it "Racist Park."

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:54 am
by missingkc
Wouldn't the state legislature have to be involved in renaming a county? I can't imagine MoLeg would be in favor.

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:46 am
by DaveKCMO
missingkc wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:54 am
Wouldn't the state legislature have to be involved in renaming a county? I can't imagine MoLeg would be in favor.
You could take a page from King County, Washington, and just pick a different Jackson to honor... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Coun ... n#Namesake

https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-peop ... is-abraham

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:15 am
by flyingember
FangKC wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:54 pm
flyingember wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:38 am
We shouldn't be memorializing bad actions of the past.

... A part of the sculpture garden dedicated to memorials of the past would fit in.

Where the structure has no physical connection rename and re-associate, like the JC Nichols fountain.
Set aside some land for the memorials and call it "Racist Park."
The politically correct name is "Heritage Park"

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:42 pm
by horizons82
Visit KC, KC Chamber, & Civic council all came out in support of renaming the Nichols fountain and Nichols Parkway.

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:23 pm
by FangKC
A Statue of a Slave Owning President Stands in the Heart of Kansas City


Mayor Quinton Lucas Calls Out Andrew Jackson

Last Friday, Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas addressed a crowd from the steps of City Hall following a tumultuous week of global protests after Minneapolis police killed George Floyd.

“Look back at that building,” said Lucas, pointing at the Jackson County Courthouse. “Who stands in front of it? Andrew Jackson — a terrible president.”
...
https://www.flatlandkc.org/news-issues/ ... nsas-city/

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:34 am
by moderne
Could have been much more of a problem. Harry Truman wanted the new courthouse designed with a giant equestrian Jackson on top of the building.

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:41 pm
by FangKC
Protesters try to tear down Andrew Jackson statue in D.C.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/921564/ ... -statue-dc

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:23 pm
by FangKC
Andrew Jackson statue vandalized in front of Jackson County Courthouse.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politic ... 16547.html

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:36 pm
by Steve52
Actor John Wayne is the latest target.

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:49 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Jackson statue in front of the courthouse is covered

Image

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:17 am
by mykn
Steve52 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:36 pm
Actor John Wayne is the latest target.
Good, the dude was a total piece of shit

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:15 am
by horizons82
https://shawneemissionpost.com/2020/06/ ... ain-95632/

The Nichols family supports renaming the fountain. You’d think that would seal the deal.

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:59 pm
by FangKC
Kansas City Parks Board swiftly votes to remove J.C. Nichols name from fountain, parkway
...
In a unanimous vote, the board agreed to change J.C. Nichols Parkway to Mill Creek Parkway and the fountain also will be renamed. KC Parks and Recreation Commissioner Chris Goode sponsored the changes and said, “this is a gesture, it isn’t a solution.”
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https://www.kmbc.com/article/kansas-ci ... y/33014877

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:07 pm
by Steve52
horizons82 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:15 am
https://shawneemissionpost.com/2020/06/ ... ain-95632/

The Nichols family supports renaming the fountain. You’d think that would seal the deal.
The other option is don't support it and risk more riots, mayhem, destruction, and economic destruction.

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:31 pm
by shinatoo
Steve52 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:07 pm
horizons82 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:15 am
https://shawneemissionpost.com/2020/06/ ... ain-95632/

The Nichols family supports renaming the fountain. You’d think that would seal the deal.
The other option is don't support it and risk more riots, mayhem, destruction, and economic destruction.
Rightfully so.

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:34 pm
by Riverite
Steve52 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:07 pm
horizons82 wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:15 am
https://shawneemissionpost.com/2020/06/ ... ain-95632/

The Nichols family supports renaming the fountain. You’d think that would seal the deal.
The other option is don't support it and risk more riots, mayhem, destruction, and economic destruction.
I haven’t seen that much economic devastation, Why are we playing this so much when trump has put this entire countries economic livelihood at risk by not having a cohesive plan

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:29 am
by TrolliKC
It's the only card the racists have left

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:53 pm
by FangKC
Richmond, Va., Mayor Orders Emergency Removal Of Confederate Statues

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-upda ... te-statues

Columbus, Ohio, Takes Down Statue Of Christopher Columbus

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updat ... r-columbus

Re: Memorializing Racists

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:17 am
by moderne
Putting a name on the now former JC Nichols fountain will always be anachronistic due to any personal name not matching the subject matter of the sculptures. Depicted are four great rivers, none of which are the Missouri.
In ancient Egypt names of pharaohs were often changed on sculpture and monuments,one idealized representation being easily identified with another,
In imperial Rome names of out of favor people were changed on statues and very often the heads were replaced. Why not just attach a beard to Andy Jackson at the courthouse and call it John Brown? Shame to waste a perfectly good and expensive bronze.