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Cratedigger wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:31 pm Also, there's a push by state lawmakers to bring St. Louis police back under state control

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 3e6885cdc9

alejandro46 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:02 am

Cratedigger wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:31 pm Also, there's a push by state lawmakers to bring St. Louis police back under state control

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 3e6885cdc9

Another republican from the suburbs trying to tell a city how to run itself. Since state control of KCPD has worked so well can't wait to see how it works out in STL.

Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:53 pm

alejandro46 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:02 am

Cratedigger wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:31 pm Also, there's a push by state lawmakers to bring St. Louis police back under state control

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 3e6885cdc9

Another republican from the suburbs trying to tell a city how to run itself. Since state control of KCPD has worked so well can't wait to see how it works out in STL.

STL was under state control a number of years ago. Some people debate it was better under state control than local and others say the opposite (that it’s better now). The problem St. Louis has is having a Circuit Attorney that doesn’t do her job of getting the hardcore criminals locked up and charged. When she tries to, she fails at it to where judges throw charges out or the State AG is complaining about it. Kim Gardner may have been re-elected but she hasn’t earned any more support since then. She may have lost support.

So the dilemma isn’t if the SLMPD should be back under state control (which wouldn’t change anything), it’s what to do with Kim Gardner and officer’s reluctance to want to do their job to the best they can knowing there’s a high chance the people they arrest will be let back out.

Cratedigger wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:39 pm Stacey Graves named KCPD chief

James: “I firmly believe in local control of the police department. I said when I was on the police board if they ever try to go to Jefferson City and pass the legislation…that allowed police officers to live outside the city that I’d basically burn their houses down.

“You should not have a badge and a gun in our city if you don’t think enough of it to actually live there.

chingon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:02 pm Jefferson City controlling anything in this city bothers me a lot more than where cops sleep. I find it pretty distasteful that they want to come play cowboy here and scramble off to Lee's Summit at night, but it's small potatoes compared to the state - especially this state, which is unquestionably one of the worst state governments in the country - having a thing to do with our policing.

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:39 pm

chingon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:02 pm Jefferson City controlling anything in this city bothers me a lot more than where cops sleep. I find it pretty distasteful that they want to come play cowboy here and scramble off to Lee's Summit at night, but it's small potatoes compared to the state - especially this state, which is unquestionably one of the worst state governments in the country - having a thing to do with our policing.

I’ve always found the residency requirement for any city position to be a little strange, I can understand a little more for cops, but you’re telling me the information desk employee needs to have city residency? If you expand your offering to the entire metro, you’d likely get better products

kboish wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:25 am

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:39 pm

chingon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:02 pm Jefferson City controlling anything in this city bothers me a lot more than where cops sleep. I find it pretty distasteful that they want to come play cowboy here and scramble off to Lee's Summit at night, but it's small potatoes compared to the state - especially this state, which is unquestionably one of the worst state governments in the country - having a thing to do with our policing.

I’ve always found the residency requirement for any city position to be a little strange, I can understand a little more for cops, but you’re telling me the information desk employee needs to have city residency? If you expand your offering to the entire metro, you’d likely get better products

This is especially true for a more specialized profession like engineering.

chingon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:02 pm Jefferson City controlling anything in this city bothers me a lot more than where cops sleep. I find it pretty distasteful that they want to come play cowboy here and scramble off to Lee's Summit at night, but it's small potatoes compared to the state - especially this state, which is unquestionably one of the worst state governments in the country - having a thing to do with our policing.

MidKC wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:00 pm The constitutionality of it wouldn’t depend on whether or not the city is good at it though.

FangKC wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:33 am Some of the highest crime rates are in so-called red states. It's not just as easy as what party is in control. New York State and New York City have among the lowest crime rates in the country, and lower than many so-called "red" states.

More often it has more to do with the poverty rate, how many students are failing in schools, drug traffic, and state gun policy. Even policing practices can make a difference.

FangKC wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:33 am Some of the highest crime rates are in so-called red states. It's not just as easy as what party is in control. New York State and New York City have among the lowest crime rates in the country, and lower than many so-called "red" states.

More often it has more to do with the poverty rate, how many students are failing in schools, drug traffic, and state gun policy. Even policing practices can make a difference.