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Town Pavillion was built for 100% ATT.
Yes, I know, but they also have the older structure over behind T-Mobile that’s uglier than sin. Actually it wouldn’t be terrible if it terminated at like the fifth floor, but it looks abandoned with all the boards and such at the moments

It's called a Longlines building, and there is one in nearly every major American city. One was just bombed in Nashville. It's there for a reason, and isn't going anywhere. They're purposely built to look as described. I'm guessing you weren't around for the years where it had a massive array of antennas and satellite dishes stacked on a tower on the roof? If you want to complain about "ugly", then that was the time.
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This one was not at all bad prior to the 1971 addition(the top half of the building without windows).
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Interesting report from National Assoc of Realtors on migration patterns during pandemic.

https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economist ... e-pandemic

Here's Jackson, MO county top 5 moving in/out of, see link for other counties.
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earthling wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:14 pm Interesting report from National Assoc of Realtors on migration patterns during pandemic.

https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economist ... e-pandemic

Here's Jackson, MO county top 5 moving in/out of, see link for other counties.
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normalthings wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:15 pm Douglas County = KU Grads?
You don't have to graduate to move to the city!
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A LinkedIn report claims KC in top 10 for net arrival gains since pandemic...

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Also on the list are Milwaukee (No. 7), Kansas City (No. 8) and Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, N.C. (No. 10.) The analysis looks at migration patterns from April 2020 through February 2021, providing a snapshot of how Americans have adjusted to disruptions associated with the COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/migratio ... os-anders/
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earthling wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:44 am A LinkedIn report claims KC in top 10 for net arrival gains since pandemic...

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Also on the list are Milwaukee (No. 7), Kansas City (No. 8) and Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, N.C. (No. 10.) The analysis looks at migration patterns from April 2020 through February 2021, providing a snapshot of how Americans have adjusted to disruptions associated with the COVID-19 pandemic.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/migratio ... os-anders/
I've read on some opinion pieces how the pandemic was going to end the US trend towards urbanism as people would want the social distancing of the burbs. Perhaps that's not happening after all.
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5%

That helps explain home prices
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BLS reporting we added 20,000 jobs in March. I think every category grew or was stable. No category really decreased
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normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:57 pm BLS reporting we added 20,000 jobs in March. I think every category grew or was stable. No category really decreased
Do they have industry breakdowns? Curious what is coming back. Just retail/entertainment or other? It does seem like nightlife is coming back
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kboish wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:00 pm
normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:57 pm BLS reporting we added 20,000 jobs in March. I think every category grew or was stable. No category really decreased
Do they have industry breakdowns? Curious what is coming back. Just retail/entertainment or other? It does seem like nightlife is coming back
https://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.mo_kansasci ... _msa1.f.p
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:lol: Youre going to make me look it up???
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kboish wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:47 pm :lol: Youre going to make me look it up???
That page has KC for the past few months with industry break downs. What are you seeing instead?

Edit: try scrolling up?
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Given the major BLS revisions lately would take the numbers with grain of salt but they are showing significant growth in KC ProBiz services, the one standout category. In particular they claim KC STEM jobs have shot up recently...

KC Metro - Professional, Scientific, and Technical Services over 10 years
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While STL metro is dropping sci/tech jobs...
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https://data.bls.gov/PDQWeb/sm

KC's hospitality jobs are improving. Information (telcom) getting worse, Tmobile merger apparently not benefiting KC (yet, if ever).

Even if they're struggling with accuracy lately, the Feds and financial institutions make decisions/recommendations on BLS data.
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Pre-covid, TMOBILE had plans to launch a 1000+ job experience center in KC. Not sure if those plans are still on the table or not.
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Federal Reserve pegs KC at 1,072,900 for March.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/KANS129NA

Job postings are 15% higher today than they were on Feb 1, 2020.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SMU2 ... 500000003A

Proff Service and Tech jobs up overall during the pandemic. Increase of maybe 4,000 jobs since it started.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/KANS129PBSV

Median KC House list price is almost $400,000 now

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEDLISPRI28140

Median home size of a house on the market has double from 2017 to now

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEDSQUFEE28140

There are 6,000 to 7,000 houses under contract. 50% higher than 2019 and like 6-7 times higher than March 2019

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PENLISCOU28140
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normalthings wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:30 pm
kboish wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:47 pm :lol: Youre going to make me look it up???
That page has KC for the past few months with industry break downs. What are you seeing instead?

Edit: try scrolling up?
No, I saw it. I was just giving you grief for not bringing the info into the thread and making me click the link :lol:

The job sectors look well positioned considering the situation- especially since leisure/hospitality really hasn't even starting showing recovery yet. I think that will change very soon (as long as covid trends stay the same).
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2020 migration numbers out on TAMU...
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... y%2C_MO-KS

KC Metro Population: 2,173,212
About 11K growth. Light international and domestic in-migration.
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STL metro slight loss, at least a better than last 2 years. about 5K domestic loss but lowest for decade.
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... s%2C_MO-IL

STL city hits below 300K...
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... Louis_city

Indianapolis fared better with over 17K growth.
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... rson%2C_IN

Columbus over 13K growth, actually had a domestic loss.
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... mbus%2C_OH

Minneapolis had 17K growth but with over 4K domestic loss.
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... n%2C_MN-WI

Chicago has been declining a few year but took bigger hit in 2020 over 47K lost..
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... C_IL-IN-WI
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Jackson County rises ~1500 to near 706K but rising domestic loss.
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... son_County

Clay County grew by ~2900 but slowed down...
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... lay_County

Platte County grew by over 1800, slight improvement...
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... tte_County

JoCo grew by 4200...
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... son_County

WyCo lost over 700...
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... tte_County

STL County lost nearly 1500...
https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/popu ... uis_County
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