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I feel like Westport would really succeed if they densified and aligned more as a sort of pub style neighborhood. Like McCoy’s or Harry’s, go for an older age group. Get some more retail, restaurants, treat it like a city center. I loved Westport when it was a bit edgier but honestly it’s long gone...

I feel like Westport would really succeed if they densified and aligned more as a sort of pub style neighborhood. Like McCoy’s or Harry’s, go for an older age group. Get some more retail, restaurants, treat it like a city center. I loved Westport when it was a bit edgier but honestly it’s long gone...

chaglang wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:22 am

DColeKC wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:22 pm

Allred has literally told people he wants Westport to be a "mini-PNL" with 10,000 people every Saturday.

This has basically been the goal of the WRBL since P&L was built.

Which I think is a losing strategy. The one thing Westport had was that older, historical charm.

The only shots he’s firing are 90% sugar and some bottom barrel left over booze that young adults pay $2 bucks for. The ole “Boobie bottle”.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:58 pm

DColeKC wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:30 pm

normalthings wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:23 pm

Move the conversation over to the right thread

I'd love too, but I've been hoping it would just end instead.

You have the power in your hands to do that.

I’m trying but I am weak! Must. Resist.

Brah, not really. You've just called it trash and listed unrealistic comparisons in much larger cities with much more space. What is unrealistic about adding $50 million to a $200 million project to actually make it something worth building? Crown Fountain cost $17 million. Lurie Garden cost $13 mi...

normalthings wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:23 pm

Move the conversation over to the right thread

I'd love too, but I've been hoping it would just end instead.

There are projects you build to spark tourism and there are projects you build for the betterment of your residents. Sometimes they do both but this project should be for the people of downtown first and foremost. I just completely disagree. This is too expensive of a project for it to only benefit...

DColeKC, the current plans have the cap ending at Grand. Do you know or think it would be possible to do a building over the interstate to the east of Grand? Something like this: https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ipd/images/project_profiles/img_oh_cap_union_station.jpg I'm sure it's possible. Originally the...

Yeah, I think you and the people who will be funding this are on completely different wave lengths. As a downtown resident, I want something like the original planned map and could care less if people from Nebraska drive all the way down here to snap a photo in front of a reflective item of art. I ...

flyingember wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:27 pm

DColeKC wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:22 pm

Btw, Barney Allis Plaza is boring because no one takes the time to manage it. Kauffman center has a ton of green space, perhaps they can erect some fun and fancy art for tourist.

They did, they erected the Kauffman Center

The Kauffman Center is beautiful.

You keep mentioning Millennium Park. How in the world do you create something similar to the 25 acre, 600 million dollar (Today's money) park on 5 acres above a freeway? It's just not fair comparison not to mention the purpose of both parks are completely different. Millennium Park is first and for...

The fact that you think this type of plan would get zero city dollars with hilarious and so inaccurate. If you think city council won't lose their minds if tens of millions in taxpayer dollars are going to be used, in part, to fund a private dog park, I don't know how to help you. I also really jus...

If there is going to be a "Bark Bar" why a seperate dog run? or is that all part of the same complex? That would make more sense to me. The original design which was done by a landscape design firm (I think), included a Bark bar as part of the Dog Park. I can see that making the final design, but t...

Allred has literally told people he wants Westport to be a "mini-PNL" with 10,000 people every Saturday.

This cowboy bar makes no sense to go into Westport. Was just talking to someone about this. I don't see any country fans going to Westport, but knowing what I know about Allred, this will just be another piss poor, cheap bar that targets the very young/underage crowd doing typical $5 cover, $2 tall...

Barney Allis is a joke. This park would be nothing like that. You described Barney Allis Park when talking about how great this place would be: "A place to take their partner for a picnic, kids to play, dogs to run or just a quiet place to read in the shade." You can't have a picnic in Barney Allis...

The park should first and foremost be designed with the downtown resident in mind and not as a tourist attraction. This isn’t a 100+ acre park next to a Great Lake. It’s likely not going to have a world famous art installation like “the bean” that will inspire people from all over the region to dri...

You act like this hasn’t been done in other cities. Is a dog park for its residents worth 3.4 million..... yes, yes it is. Let’s just drop the idea it would be for residents only and assume it’s open to the public. You are severely underestimating how important an off lease dog park is downtown. Th...

A dog park in a park makes more sense than a dog park next to swimming pool and cooking area 8 floors above ground Why? artificial turf. Yes, they can figure out how to cantilever a swimming pool off the side of the 8th floor of a building over Main Street but putting mulch and shrubs on a roof wou...