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Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:29 pm
by aknowledgeableperson
^^^
Just for the stadium rehabs, not the roof.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:05 pm
by Maitre D
aknowledgeableperson wrote: ^^^
Just for the stadium rehabs, not the roof.
Please stop.  Don't peddle their nonsense.

We all know damn well we'd have had endless votes.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:06 pm
by kcdcchef
aknowledgeableperson wrote: ^^^
Just for the stadium rehabs, not the roof.
in one way shape or form of another, that roof concept will return. there is too much at stake for kc to forget it. final four and a superbowl, that would be impressive.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:02 am
by LenexatoKCMO
Long wrote: I have no doubt they will come up with yet another clever yet misleading marketing ploy to manipulate the voters.
I was figuring they might try and package the roof with some other project(s) the second time around - more money for the PAC maybe?- money for the zoo?  Something along those lines. 

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:33 am
by kard
LenexatoKCMO wrote: I was figuring they might try and package the roof with some other project(s) the second time around - more money for the PAC maybe?- money for the zoo?  Something along those lines. 
It will be piggy-backed with the sewer project.

"Vote for the roof!  Keep the sewers!"

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 1:04 pm
by kard
The dead horse is twitching!!  What we should have done is the Use Tax and a lower/shorter sales tax for just the renovations.  Now the Chamber is against the use tax--the tax on busineses.  Makes sense for them to be against that, now.


From today's Editorial section...
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascit ... 532357.htm

Posted on Tue, May. 09, 2006

Chiefs’ inflexibility threatens roof plan

A proposed rolling roof would shelter Arrowhead Stadium and would allow the Super Bowl to be played there in 2015.


The quest for a rolling roof at the Truman Sports Complex has hit another roadblock.

Unless the Kansas City Chiefs offer to pay more for the $202 million roof, the project probably won’t be on the Aug. 8 ballot. In turn, that unfortunately could kill Kansas City’s bid to play host to the Super Bowl in 2015.

On Monday, 19 members of the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce’s executive committee unanimously agreed to oppose placing another roof plan on the Aug. 8 ballot — if the proposal would be the same one voters rejected on April 4.

Jack Steadman, vice chairman of the Chiefs, confirmed Monday that “time is running shortâ€

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:03 pm
by KCDevin
I think i'm going to change my view...

I'm Pro-Rolling Roof, but I'm going to oppose the teams if they refuse to pay more. The Chamber of Commerce issued their statement, this is more of a compromise. They would support it if the teams paid more. How hard is that to agree to? Chiefs would pay 30 mil in the old plan, the Royals would pay nothing... Threaten the Royals, if they refuse to pay an equal amount for the roof as the Chiefs, refuse to approve any further renovations in the next 40 years. Tell the Chiefs you'd approve it if they would contribute 10-50 million more.

Do something, this time, it's on the team's hands. If they refuse to compromise, it is their fault we lost our Super Bowl chance.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:37 pm
by Maitre D
This is so god-damned funny.  The idiots in JackO really believed Hunt want to "give this city a Super Bowl".

BWAHAHASHAHAHAH!  He wanted you to pour gazillions into his stadium, that's what he wanted.  And he got it.  Too damn obvious.  (To anyone with a brain)

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:38 pm
by Maitre D
KCDevin wrote: Threaten the Royals, if they refuse to pay an equal amount for the roof as the Chiefs, refuse to approve any further renovations in the next 40 years.
Um.....why would they care?  They just got their 225M handout.

Do you think threats are effective NOW? 

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:59 pm
by KCMax
The Royals should absolutely not pay as much as the Chiefs for the roof. The Royals get basically little to no economic benefit from it - 2-3 rainouts a year? Maybe a bit greater attendance on gloomy days? That's it.

The Chiefs get a friggin Super Bowl and Final Four in their stadium, and the parking and concessions associated. Let those bastards pay for it.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:05 pm
by KCDevin
The Royals suck and IMO, shouldn't even be in KC, I'd rather have NBA or NHL in Downtown. The Royals should be punished for sucking so much. (IE, Glass and others should be punished, not the players)
I particularly don't like losers. For the past years, i've elected nearly every Royals player to go to the All-Star Game, (every "good" one)... This year I didn't vote for any. I no longer have any real love left for the Royals.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:22 am
by bahua
KCDevin wrote: The Royals suck and IMO, shouldn't even be in KC, I'd rather have NBA or NHL in Downtown. The Royals should be punished for sucking so much. (IE, Glass and others should be punished, not the players)
I particularly don't like losers. For the past years, i've elected nearly every Royals player to go to the All-Star Game, (every "good" one)... This year I didn't vote for any. I no longer have any real love left for the Royals.
And yet you were cowed into supporting question one? What you just said was inconsistent with a yes vote.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:32 pm
by KCDevin
bahua, I supported question one because of the chiefs, not the royals. The chiefs deserve a rehabbed stadium, the royals didn't. I said as much before the vote.

I also supported question one because the chiefs do not belong in johnson county.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:37 pm
by bahua
Well, however fractional your support is/was, support for a yes vote was a yes to both teams. You can say all you want, but you still supported the Royals in your decision.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:45 pm
by KCDevin
I didn't directly support them. Voting no would have caused the Chiefs to move their team (most likely) to Johnson County, this should NEVER EVER be allowed to happen. Also, isn't someone allowed to change their opinion even slightly?

The only way I'm ever going to support the Royals is if they get rid of several of their current players, including the worst and the oldest, and cough up more money for better players, maybe not superstars, but great baseball players anyway.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:50 pm
by Maitre D
bahua wrote: Well, however fractional your support is/was, support for a yes vote was a yes to both teams. You can say all you want, but you still supported the Royals in your decision.
Exactly.

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:21 pm
by kard

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:47 pm
by bahua
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA!?

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:28 pm
by midtown guy
I do think it's ironic, or strange, or something, that the Star was SOOOO in favor of Question 2, and now, completely against it coming back on the ballot.  As if now that the teams are no longer a threat to leave, they can speak out about what a stupid plan it is...

Re: Kansas City Sports Officials Turn Attention to Rolling Roof

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:32 pm
by KCMax
Yea, and I'm not hearing about what a huge economic impact the Super Bowl and Final Four is anymore. That's odd. All of the supporters for Question 1 suddenly don't give a crap about Question 2, even though they used the impact of these events to support Question 1 before.

I mean, c'mon, the roof practically pays for itself, right?