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Casino land event today

Tribal leaders and Unified Government leaders are expected to attend the announcement today of an 80-acre land purchase for the Sac and Fox and Kickapoo tribes' resort and casino near the Kansas Speedway.

The event will be from 2 to 3:30 p.m. today at Cabela's in Village West.

Tribal officials said the $210 million destination resort hotel and casino would generate more than 1,500 new jobs in the Village West area of Kansas City, Kan. It also would bring in an estimated $40 million to state and local governments from gaming revenues.

The casino proposal is in negotiations with the governor's office, according to state and tribal officials.

"I have seen the Kickapoo, Sac and Fox proposal for a casino in Wyandotte County," said Sen. Chris Steineger, D-6th Dist. "I think it's a good overall proposal. I certainly support the concept. I support the governor and her staff in negotiations with the tribe, and I hope we can consummate these negotiations very soon. They've dragged on too long already. We need to finish the negotiations, and bring them to closure, so we can move on to Washington, D.C., for the final approval."
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So are they really going to do this casing thing vegas style?
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Isn't this going to be right across from the T-Bones park? Doesn't seem to fit with the "family" atmosphere they are going after.

I would think they would at least put that thing somwhere along a highway where people can see it. You can't see any of that development along I-70. 435 north of the speedway carries very little traffic, especially out of town traffic.

I would be surprised if the Legends is really catching much cross country traffic at all.

But at least they have gotten some bigger casino proposals than before. We shall see if a state as conservative as KS every gets such an attraction.
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GRID wrote:Isn't this going to be right across from the T-Bones park? Doesn't seem to fit with the "family" atmosphere they are going after.

I would think they would at least put that thing somwhere along a highway where people can see it. You can't see any of that development along I-70. 435 north of the speedway carries very little traffic, especially out of town traffic.

I would be surprised if the Legends is really catching much cross country traffic at all.

But at least they have gotten some bigger casino proposals than before. We shall see if a state as conservative as KS every gets such an attraction.
I really don't like the sac and fox and kickapoo plan. I actually prefer the plan from the Delaware tribe.

Here is the Delaware tribe's plan, I just wish they were doing this because of the racing related attractions they proposed.
The Delaware proposal added some luster last week when tribal officials disclosed plans for an automobile museum that would display vintage race cars among its exhibits.
He suggested the tribe might also be looking at a franchise for a Daytona USA museum from a speedway-affiliated company. That museum package offers a history of NASCAR racing along with a movie theater and interactive exhibits that range from changing a race car tire in the pits to simulator racing games.

The ambitious Delaware project, at the southwest corner of State Avenue and 118th Street, would include a 250-room hotel, several restaurants and pubs, a 750-seat bingo hall, a convention facility, a 2,700-seat showroom, indoor parking and a health spa.

Its proposed 148,000-square-foot casino floor would be slightly larger than the 140,000 square feet on two decks at Ameristar Kansas City Casino and Hotel.
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The plan put forward by the Kickapoo and Sac and Fox is reportedly near completion and only needs approval from the U.S. Department of the Interior to materialize. Sebelius is behind this plan...

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascit ... 862657.htm
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Looks like Kansas is ready to allow gambling in Wyandotte County. Don't expect anything too soon though. I read another article recently that said it could be another 2 years before the Sac and Fox tribe were ready for the groundbreaking.


http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascit ... 951036.htm
Casino compact announced; state's take tied to limits on others

JOHN HANNA

Associated Press

TOPEKA, Kan. - Two Indian tribes and Gov. Kathleen Sebelius agreed to a compact permitting a large casino in Wyandotte County, guaranteeing the state revenues based on how much it restricts gambling elsewhere, a Sebelius aide announced Monday.

Under the compact reached with the Kickapoo and Sac and Fox tribes, the state could receive $50 million or more a year, said Matt All, the governor's chief counsel. Wyandotte County could receive $10 million or more, he said.

However, to get its full share, the state must limit the number of slot machines in Kansas and oppose another Indian casino within 100 miles, All said.

It would be the first Indian casino in Kansas to share revenue with the state. Seven other states - Arizona, California, Connecticut, Michigan, New Mexico, New York and Wisconsin - have such agreements with tribes, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

The Kickapoo and Sac and Fox have proposed building a $210 million casino-and-hotel complex near Kansas Speedway.

All outlined the compact during a briefing with reporters, releasing a 16-page summary. He said the compact will be presented Wednesday to the Legislature's Joint Committee on Tribal-State Relations.

"This project will create hundreds of jobs, attract thousands of tourists and generate millions of dollars for the state and local governments," Sebelius said in a statement.

The Kickapoo and Sac and Fox already operate their own, separate casinos in Brown County in northeast Kansas. The compact would allow them to remain open for another seven years, with the state getting 4 percent of their gross revenues.
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Oh lord - do we REALLY need another casino?

Criminy. ANyone who proposes a casino as an idea for economic development is only proving how unoriginal and thoughtless they are. I mean, JEEZ - I want to ask these people, is that "all" you could come up with? Gambling?

Studies show that gambling has adverse affects on populations, esp. the low-income poorly educated folk. I expect you liberals would therefore oppose it. Right?
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pittsburghparoyal wrote:Oh lord - do we REALLY need another casino?

Criminy. ANyone who proposes a casino as an idea for economic development is only proving how unoriginal and thoughtless they are. I mean, JEEZ - I want to ask these people, is that "all" you could come up with? Gambling?

Studies show that gambling has adverse affects on populations, esp. the low-income poorly educated folk. I expect you liberals would therefore oppose it. Right?
I don't know, a Union Station casino would be really nice... :)
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pittsburghparoyal wrote: Studies show that gambling has adverse affects on populations, esp. the low-income poorly educated folk.
:shock: Whoa!! PPR, are you feeling OK?
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pittsburghparoyal wrote:Oh lord - do we REALLY need another casino?
How about 2 casino's.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/s ... st=b_ln_hl

Delaware tribe seeks land for casino near speedway

The Gillmann Group and the Delaware Tribe said Monday that they will file a land-into-trust application this week with the Bureau of Indian Affairs to have 80 acres in Bonner Springs placed into trust for the tribe for a hotel and casino.


The Gillmann Group, a Las Vegas-based developer and manager of casino resorts, and the Delaware Tribe, based in Bartlesville, Okla., want to build a $250 million resort hotel and casino along Speedway Boulevard south of State Avenue near the Kansas Speedway in Bonner Springs.

Also Monday, Gov. Kathleen Sebelius said the state and the Sac and Fox and Kickapoo tribes had reached an agreement on a gaming compact that could generate $50 million to $60 million a year for the state. The casino also would be near the Kansas Speedway.

In a written release, the Gillmann Group said it had negotiated the purchase of the 80-acre parcel in March and has financing to complete the first phase of a three-phase master plan.

"This is a straightforward application by a landless tribe seeking to take land from its last reservation for the purpose of gaming and falls within current BIA guidelines and the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act," Fred Gillmann, president and CEO of The Gillmann Group, said in the release. "It will not require special legislation or congressional modification of existing rules and policies, unlike plans that have been submitted by other tribes which have existing casinos on existing reservations."

Gillmann said that getting the land into the trust application process with the BIA could take four to eight months and that, in the meantime, his company and the Delaware Tribe will seek to negotiate a compact with Sebelius.

In the first phase, the proposed hotel and casino would include a 15-story hotel tower with 250 upscale rooms and suites, a 148,500-square-foot casino, 3,000 slot machines, 90 table games and a 750-seat bingo parlor. The resort would include an upscale steakhouse, a 24-hour restaurant, a buffet and a food court with five venues: a sports bar, a deli and barbecue facility combined with a cabaret and three free-standing bars.

An entertainment, special events and convention facility encompassing 70,000 square feet would include a 2,700-seat theater/showroom, meeting rooms, banquet rooms and a boardroom. Parking would include 1,000 covered spaces, 2,400 open spaces and 10 acres of oversized-vehicle parking.

The resort also would have a health club, pool and a 30,000-square-foot automobile museum for racing fans.

"It is certainly good news that The Gillmann Group and the Delaware Nation are continuing their efforts to develop this world-class destination resort and casino in Bonner Springs," Mayor Clausie Smith said in the release.

Gillmann said that if all approvals are received, the project could take 18 months to 24 months to design and build.
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pittsburghparoyal wrote:Oh lord - do we REALLY need another casino?

Studies show that gambling has adverse affects on populations, esp. the low-income poorly educated folk. I expect you liberals would therefore oppose it. Right?
I might agree with you if the fact was that 1 MILE from the border of KCK there is already a casino and that people all over the KC metro area have had access to gambling for years and the whole "Sky is Falling" theory that people like you suggest has not happened yet.

As for liberals opposing gambling, the truth is that conservatives are the ones who most strongly oppose gambling. They don't think that it coincides with "good christian values". If you don't believe me, read about the Wichita lawmakers who think gambling will cause the "end of the world"

If you don't personally like to gamble, do not gamble, but if some Indian Tribe wants to invest hundreds of millions into my city I'm all for it.
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I don't see how the metro can support another casino.
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KC0KEK wrote:I don't see how the metro can support another casino.
That point is irrelevant. The strongest will survive, its called competition, and its completely natural in business. Two gas stations open up right across the street from each other. If there isn't enough business for both of them, the one with the better prices, service, and selection will win. We don't forbid the two gas stations from opening though just because we don't think there is enough business for both of them.
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It's not irrelevant. The current environment is something that any well-run business will look at before deciding whether to jump in. Sure, one of them could fold, just as Sam's did. Any would-be operator will have to make a case -- either internally, or externally to shareholders, analysts, regulators, etc. -- for why they'll be able to succeed.
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KC0KEK wrote:It's not irrelevant. The current environment is something that any well-run business will look at before deciding whether to jump in. Sure, one of them could fold, just as Sam's did. Any would-be operator will have to make a case -- either internally, or externally to shareholders, analysts, regulators, etc. -- for why they'll be able to succeed.
It is irrelevant because the investors believe they can make it work. If the investors didn't believe the market could support the casino, they would have never made the proposal to begin with.

Personally i don't care for the Isle of Capri. It is crappy, small, and ghettoish. If this new casino kills it, I won't be upset to see it go.
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I'm most interested in the state making deals with certain tribes....if they are going to allow gambling, shouldn't they allow any tribes to open up where they want?

This will be interesting to follow. My prediction is neither one of these proposals are built.
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DeadManWalking wrote:If the investors didn't believe the market could support the casino, they would have never made the proposal to begin with.
I'm sure that Sam's investors believed the same thing.
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Until and IF it get's built that sucking sound you hear are revenue's flowing from Kansas to Missouri coffers. How much money does your state have to lose before you do something about it??
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pittsburghparoyal wrote:Oh lord - do we REALLY need another casino?

Criminy. ANyone who proposes a casino as an idea for economic development is only proving how unoriginal and thoughtless they are. I mean, JEEZ - I want to ask these people, is that "all" you could come up with? Gambling?

Studies show that gambling has adverse affects on populations, esp. the low-income poorly educated folk. I expect you liberals would therefore oppose it. Right?
I'm happy for the Kickapoo and Sac & Fox tribes! =D> They weren't makin' much money with those reservation casinos out in the middle of nowhere. I have a friend who's a Kickapoo and he stands to make some money from this development. :)

BTW, pittsburgh, I love gambling. I make sure I take a casino trip once a year to either Vegas, Reno, Tahoe, Tunica, Biloxi/Gulfport, or Atlantic City. Goin' to Laughlin next weekend. 8)
KC0KEK wrote:I don't see how the metro can support another casino.
The metro supports a ton of theaters, chain restaurants, and Walmarts...I think they can handle another casino. Besides, this will be a "destination" casino targeting our rural hypocritical conservative visitors that love NASCAR and Hunting.
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QueSi2Opie wrote:The metro supports a ton of theaters, chain restaurants, and Walmarts.
And every year, many of them close because they misjudged the market. That's just business. Even if the research suggests that the market can support another _____, it's ultimately still a bet, and not all bets pay off. We'll see, I guess.
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