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StL_Dan wrote:Elderly
Welfare recipients
Deadbeats
Children's college funds
Savings accounts
Those morons (or nieve individuals) make their own poor choices in life. Jus' like a moron who owns a hunting rifle decides to saw it off, walk into a Jewish church, and shoot a bunch of kids in the name of Christianity. Or anyone that owns a gun for that matter. Or anyone who is addicted to alcohol, or comic books, or sports cars, or travel, or living above their means, etc. People go broke because of the wasteful $hit they spend their money on.
StL_Dan wrote:I'm not naive, Q, but am not OVERLY concerned about what's overseas right now since I'm fairly certain my children will not be exposed to such delights growing up in Olathe. Another good reason to live here.
The divorce rate in Europe is half that of the United States and they see nudity on a daily basis. Maybe that's something us Americans could learn from them.
StL_Dan wrote:That is a ridiculous statement. Faces aren't sex organs.
C'mon, Danny...there was a time in the United States that anything above the ankle was considered a sex organ. Later it was the knee...
StL_Dan wrote:Wouldn't your wife prefer her body to be recipient of the honor of being the sole object of your desire?
I don't care if my wife wants to go topless in Europe...but never in the United States, people here would stare like perverts that have never seen a tit before! Don't get me wrong, I love this country...jus' like everybody on this post has things they love and hate about Kansas City.
StL_Dan wrote:Whoooooaaaa. Sex isn't bad. God created it as a way for man and wife to become closer to each other, to become one flesh, than they would with any other person on this earth. Sex is a BEAUTIFUL thing when used properly. Wouldn't you agree?
I agree...sex is definitely beautiful. That's why I had so much of it before I got married!
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Well, Q, I'm glad we know where each of us stand.

That's about the only thing I can think of to say.
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StL_Dan wrote:Well, Q, I'm glad we know where each of us stand.

That's about the only thing I can think of to say.
Casinos give better odds than churches :twisted: If anyone exploits the "Elderly" it's the church. "Give your last penny to help spread the word of Jesus Christ!" Why should an elderly person feel that they need to give their last coin to ensure themselves a spot in Heaven? Only a fraction of the money donated to churches goes towards helping the sick and needy. Much of it goes towards church expansion, building Mega-churches (like the one on 135th & Pflumm in your Olathe), pastor/reverend salaries and to spread the word of Christ. Meanwhile, you have a large portion of the $300 million from casinos going towards schools in Missouri. Of course that's if the Missouri Gaming Commisson isn't pocketing a hefty bulk of that the money (Bill Kenney seems to be livin' larger and larger each year). Jus' remember, people can abuse or over-do anything...kinda like the way we keep spendin' our grocery money on wildlife charities.
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Well, it's open. I'm a little weirded out by the fact that a tribe from Oklahoma now has a right to open a "casino" in downtown KCk. I say shut 'em down. I'm not against a casino, but this place sounds like a dump. Marinovich called it something like a "bingo trailer."
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So what's the general concensus here on sex in casinos? 8)
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Marinovich wants a casino in Wy Co, but isn't on the same page as this tribe. I'm not sure if I support building a Casino by the Speedway unless it is integrated into Legends and the Village West area.
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Don't mess with Marinovich, she's has her ways...
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KCK casino lacks fire sprinklers and occupancy limits

By RICK ALM
The Kansas City Star

There are no fire sprinklers or occupancy limits at the 7th Street Casino in downtown Kansas City, Kan., and government officials fear the place could be a firetrap.

Because the downtown gambling parlor is on sovereign tribal land, city officials can only watch as customers head inside day and night to play 152 slot machines.

Business has been brisk since the casino opened a week ago. A lunch-hour crowd Friday numbered more than 80 players.

"It's a ticklish and difficult situation," said Kansas City, Kan., Fire Marshal Ed Gripp. "We've had firefighters interested in going in" to do advance work to be prepared for an emergency.

"But I've been instructed to stay off the premises until something is ironed out."

Mayor Carol Marinovich of the Unified Board of Commissioners of Wyandotte County and Kansas City, Kan., said Friday that the city was drafting a letter to the Wyandotte Tribe of Oklahoma expressing its concern over fire safety.

"There are issues over there about fire exits, capacity and so forth," she said. "We feel it is our responsibility to advise them."

The casino sits on a small plot of land owned by the Oklahoma tribe. Over state officials' objections, a U.S. Interior Department decision earlier this year granted de facto reservation status to the land, which paved the way for federally approved tribal gambling. The state has sued the federal government to overturn the decision.

As long as the land is a tribal reservation, city fire codes and state statutes have little or no effect.

The tribe has proposed cash payments in exchange for municipal services, presumably including fire protection. But tribal and city officials would not disclose details of the proposal.

City officials have endorsed the tribe's plan to build a casino resort hotel near Kansas Speedway and have a services agreement pending for that deal, which so far has failed to win necessary state or congressional approval.

The city is staunchly opposed to the downtown casino across the street from City Hall, and Marinovich has said she won't consider a services agreement with the tribe for that site.

The day the casino opened last week, city workers blockaded access to a vacant strip of land the tribe had been using for employee parking.

The National Indian Gaming Commission has regulated tribal casinos for the Interior Department since 1988. The first set of public health and safety guidelines for tribal casinos were issued last summer.

Those rules, however, leave it to the tribes to devise standards ensuring that "gaming operations on Indian lands are constructed, operated and maintained in a manner that adequately protects the environment, public health and safety."

The chairman of the Indian Gaming Commission, Phil Hogen, said Friday that investigators were involved in inspecting the casino to determine whether the tribe met all federal conditions for opening -- including its own fire safety standards.

"We're playing catch-up," said Hogen. "It did come as a surprise to us that they opened as suddenly as they did."

At this point, one week after the casino's unannounced opening, "we don't know all of the answers to all of the questions we are interested in," Hogen added.

He hopes investigators will issue preliminary findings next week. Hogen noted that the commission has the authority to temporarily close facilities in the event of any "imminent jeopardy" to property or human life.

Gripp said city fire codes generally require sprinklers in any public area 5,000 square feet or larger.

The casino's general manager, Ellis Enyart, estimated the casino's gaming floor right at 5,000 square feet, and the city agreed.

"We believe it is 5,000 feet, and we believe it probably should be sprinklered," said Unified Government attorney Hal Walker. "You'd think they'd want to avoid any potential catastrophe."

Enyart said tribal officials were well aware of fire safety issues in the casino and were working on remedies. Enyart declined to discuss specifics.

In the meantime, Enyart said, casino security officers have been instructed to monitor occupancy levels.

"We try to keep it to a minimum," said Enyart. "If it seems to be getting too crowded, they control the size of the crowd coming in and going out."

Enyart said he would have no problem with a visit from the city fire marshal's office.

"They can certainly come and visit us," said Enyart. "We have no objection to them coming on the property and having a look around."
To reach Rick Alm, call (816) 234-4785 or send e-mail to ralm@kcstar.com.
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From yesterday...
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascit ... 704173.htm

Sebelius I guess thinks she needs to bring the tackiness of Village West full circle.

She's gonna need something big if she wants to knock off Ameristar, Harrah's and newly energized Argosy. I think we already have enough casinos without Kansas throwing its hat in the ring.
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The thing that bothers me most about this whole casino thing is that 81% of Wyandotte Countians voted to allow casino gambling here, and the state of Kansas said we couldn't have it. They basically said that the whole democratic way of making things happen is not the way we should do things in Kansas. It reminds me of when KCK first threw out the no-Sunday liquor sales thing. All these super christian politicians tried to throw out our votes, not realizing that in Kansas City, we still had access to liquor on Sunday, but Missouri was getting all of the Kansas business. As soon as it passes in KCK, lots of other cities pass it too. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of Kansans wanted liquor on Sundays, and the majority of Kansans want legalized gambling. The governor realized that to oppose gambling would be to oppose the majority of Kansans, an act that would be bad for re-election.

Johnson, Leavenworth, Miami, and Wyandotte counties need to use their population as sway and get things changed in this super bible-belt state. Anything you can do in Missouri that you cant do in Kansas will cost Kansas in the long run because of Kansas City area's closeness to Missouri.
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Allowing gaming in KS needs to start with slots at the Woodlands. It is a dated facility, but it has easy access and is an EASY way to generate tremendous revenues.
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Slappy....but you see that's INSIDE the 435 loop. Marinovich only sees things outside the loop.

She's currently trying to get the white City Hall building airlifed to the infield of the Kansas Speedway
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trailerkid wrote:From yesterday...
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascit ... 704173.htm

Sebelius I guess thinks she needs to bring the tackiness of Village West full circle.

She's gonna need something big if she wants to knock off Ameristar, Harrah's and newly energized Argosy. I think we already have enough casinos without Kansas throwing its hat in the ring.
Any kind of rural tourist village built from scratch in the 21st century is tacky. WyCo needs a casino because Kansans are losing these gambling dollars to Missouri. We are glad to give you money for stadiums, zoos and downtown improvements...but we don't want to give you ALL our gambling dollars. I'll still support Missouri casinos, but I'd like a nearby Kansas one as well w/out drivin' all the way to the Indian Reservations. However, I think her priority should be gettin' slots at the Woodlands first.
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KC wrote:Slappy....but you see that's INSIDE the 435 loop. Marinovich only sees things outside the loop.

She's currently trying to get the white City Hall building airlifed to the infield of the Kansas Speedway
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The Delaware Tribe of Oklahoma is getting more serious about opening a casino next to the Speedway. They are attempting to get federal trust status for the 79-acre site in Wy Co. Sebelious isn't down with them, but wants the Village West casino to still happen.
http://kansascity.bizjournals.com/kansa ... st=b_ln_hl

I say let 'em build it as long as it is integrated into the Village West plan. If this thing goes up....another casino will surely bite the dust. At least one of our casinos would actually be near other attractions.
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KCK is going after a "destination" casino and that’s good. But I personally don't think a 200 million dollar casino with a 200 room hotel is a "destination" casino. I mean that is comparable to Harrah’s when they first opened. Ameristar is a destination casino. They have invested close to ¾ billion dollars into that property. It has one of the country’s largest gaming floors, movie theaters, a concert hall, and tons of restaurants and other attractions. Don’t be surprised if they announce yet another major expansion out there if KCK decides to build a casino. Ameristar still wants to build it’s bowling alley and double it’s 400 room hotel and do other things that will keep it the “destinationâ€
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i dont think that a casino would really hurt anything over here, especially since alot of people over wouldnt mind having one, do yall know how many people from kck drive over to tha boats, that money should stay in ks. As long as they dont put it literally next to village west i have no problem at all, in fact i would be in favor for it. And everone is complaining that every thing is being put out by tha speedway, but why not, especially inside 635 its not like there is alot of room, think of how many people they would have to move, when if u put it out west only thing u have to move is some cows
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I think it is a really bad idea that the state itself wants to own the casino. Why not just ammend the state constitution to allow limited gambling by private companies?These private companies could invest much more than the state into the casinos.

I have been thinking, and if Kansas hurries and passes the gambling issue, and makes it so there are no limits, and no stupid cards like the Missouri casinos, then they could take a decent portion of the market away. This being said, it might be profitable to try to get one of the current KCMO casinos to move from the Missouri, to the Kansas side of the state line. Since Argosy, Harrahs, and Ameristar have recently invested lots of money into remodeling, Isle of Capri would be the best candidate and would have the most to gain since they are the casino in KC that makes the least money. This isn't possible without the ammendment I mentioned above.

Also I am not interested in a casino near Village West. The Wyandot's had the right idea. There has to be some sort of entertainment venue downtown to bring people there. A casino seems like the perfect choice. Of course much larger, with sufficient parking and a large hotel to add to our almost non-existent skyline. No, it wouldn't help their so-called entertainment district, but lately I care less and less about Village West.
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I have been thinking, and if Kansas hurries and passes the gambling issue, and makes it so there are no limits, and no stupid cards like the Missouri casinos, then they could take a decent portion of the market away.
For the average gambler the cards aren't a big deal. Also, a state which has no casino's which contribute nothing to state coffers while a neigboring state does sounds pretty stupid to me. I honestly can't believe it's taken this long for the stupid state of Kansas to do this.
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KMBZ reporting...

Two Indian tribes will announce tomorrow a $200 M casino near the Kansas Speedway.
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trailerkid wrote:KMBZ reporting...

Two Indian tribes will announce tomorrow a $200 M casino near the Kansas Speedway.
Good! =D> Hopefully those primitive state Conservatives won't stop it!
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