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Does anybody know anything about this stuff?  What cars run on it, if it is ok for those cars long term, if there is much growth in E85 stations?  I just read about it- and it sounds like a nice alternative fuel- one that could help decrease our dependence on foreign oil, and also increase the economies of Kansas, Missouri, and Kansas City.

phxcat wrote: Does anybody know anything about this stuff?  What cars run on it, if it is ok for those cars long term, if there is much growth in E85 stations?  I just read about it- and it sounds like a nice alternative fuel- one that could help decrease our dependence on foreign oil, and also increase the economies of Kansas, Missouri, and Kansas City.

Try this link:
http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/e85toolkit/

phxcat wrote: Does anybody know anything about this stuff?  What cars run on it, if it is ok for those cars long term, if there is much growth in E85 stations?  I just read about it- and it sounds like a nice alternative fuel- one that could help decrease our dependence on foreign oil, and also increase the economies of Kansas, Missouri, and Kansas City.

take a gander at this test  from a real life person on a chevy forum. doesn't look too good. at least for now.

http://tinyurl.com/95g99

I thihnk any flexible fuel vehicle (FFV) can run with E85.  It just takes a fuel sensor to adjust for the various densities of the fuel.  The little green leaf icon on Fords is their FFV indicator and I've seen it on lots of models.  Not sure about others.

FFV Models

DaimlerChrysler
2004-05
    * 4.7L Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 Series
    * 2.7L Dodge Stratus Sedan
    * 2.7L Chrysler Sebring Sedan
    * 3.3L Caravan & Grand Caravan SE

2003-04
    * 2.7L Dodge Stratus Sedan
    * 2.7L Chrysler Sebring Sedan

2003
    * 3.3L Dodge Cargo Minivan

2000-03
    * 3.3L Chrysler Voyager Minivan
    * 3.3L Dodge Caravan Minivan
    * 3.3L Chrysler Town & Country Minivan

1998-99
    * 3.3L Dodge Caravan Minivan
    * 3.3L Plymouth Voyager Minivan
    * 3.3L Chrysler Town & Country Minivan

Ford Motor Company
2004-05
    * 4.0L Explorer Sport Trac
    * 4.0L Exporer (4-door)
    * 3.0L Taurus sedan and wagon

2002-04
    * 4.0L Explorer (4-door)
    * 3.0L Taurus sedan and wagon

2002-03
    * 3.0L Supercab Ranger Pickup 2WD

2001
    * 3.0L Supercab Ranger Pickup 2WD
    * 3.0L Taurus LX, SE and SES sedan

1999-2000
    * 3.0L Ranger Pickup 4WD and 2WD

General Motors
2005
    * 5.3L Vortec-engine Avalanche
    * 5.3L Vortec-engine Police Package Tahoe

2003-05
    * 5.3L V8 Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra half-ton pickups 2WD & 4WD
    * 5.3L Vortec-engine Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon, and Yukon XL

2002
    * 5.3L V8 Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra half-ton pickups 2WD & 4WD
    * 5.3L Vortec-engine Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon, and Yukon XL
    * 2.2L Chevy S10 pickup 2WD
    * 2.2L Sonoma GMC pickup 2WD

2000-01
    * 2.2L Chevy S10 pickup 2WD
    * 2.2L GMC Sonoma pickup 2WD

Isuzu
    * 2000-01
    * 2.2L Hombre pickup 2WD

Mazda
    * 1999-2003
    * 3.0L Selected B3000 pickups

Mercedes-Benz
2005
    * 2.6L C240 luxury sedan and wagon

2003
    * 3.2L C320 sport sedan and wagon

Mercury
2002-04
    * 4.0L Selected Mountaineers

2000-04
    * 3.0L Selected Sables

(http://www.ethanol.org/ACEFFVs.htm)
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E85 stations within 100 miles of KCMO


Presto Conoco #29  649 East Bannister Road Kansas City, MO
Cenex Ampride 1102 South Highway 169 Smithville,MO 64089
Capitol City Oil, Incorporated 4141 NW Lower Silver Lake Road Topeka, KS 66667
Breaktime 1000 W College Street Marshall, MO 65340

(http://afdcmap.nrel.gov/locator/LocateResult.asp)

Not to hijack this thread, but is all gasoline now low-sulfur? I ask because I got a TSB saying that I should use low-sulfur gas in order to avoid a rotten-egg odor when the mix is rich (e.g., at a stoplight). If low sulfur isn't the norm, how can I tell which stations sell it? It's not like octane, where the figure is listed on the pump.