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kboish wrote:Its so far from the street. I can barely see it.

I was noticing earlier today how desolate and terrible that looks from the HOA Bridge and assumed/hoped there was another row to be built. Just now caught up on this thread. Depressing. I can't believe they wouldn't at least put the parking on the interior of the block.

If I were an urban planning professor teaching students, this project would be among my examples of worst practices.

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• Walkable area
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• Long term lease or lease-to-purchase

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Have them call Sue Burke.

Cruised through columbus park this week. Whoa...what the heck. A bunch of apartments and surface parking smack dab where common area could be.

Raytown Phoenix wrote:Cruised through columbus park this week. Whoa...what the heck. A bunch of apartments and surface parking smack dab where common area could be.

Thought the same when I was headed down to Local Pig the other day. That surface parking is college apartment ugly.

Drove through CP yesterday; the new apartments look beyond terrible and cheap. This would have been an amazing opportunity for a denser and taller neighborhood. Then again, where would everyone have parked?!? Idiots.

This is what is being designed for Lenexa around 87th Street and Penrose. This is what should have been built in Columbus Park. Imagine, Lenexa, a low-density suburb putting in better density than a neighborhood in downtown Kansas City that is literally five blocks from the core of the business district, and adjacent to the streetcar line.

http://www.klover.net/the-district/

The site in Lenexa.

http://tinyurl.com/j9weyuz

I'm sure these points aren't news to you, but there are at least two differences between and Columbus Park that allowed for this density: 1. Lenexa has a very clear plan for that area that includes higher densities and 2. the developers and city didn't have to contend with much - if any - neighborhood resistance.

missingkc wrote:I'm sure these points aren't news to you, but there are at least two differences between and Columbus Park that allowed for this density: 1. Lenexa has a very clear plan for that area that includes higher densities and 2. the developers and city didn't have to contend with much - if any - neighborhood resistance.

the golf course won't care about the density.

I don't understand the interest in big flat roofs on square shaped projects. They remind me of the Bin Laden compound.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... istan.html

I'll never understand this city's inability to create a critical mass along major streets.
Critical mass promotes more and denser development on side streets.
It seems like every developer wants to build their project in disparate places (blocks), negating the benefit of close and connected proximity to other development that creates a critical mass, safer neighborhoods and walkability.

Look at 18th & Vine, there's a nice apartment building a few blocks south on Vine Street that is disparate and barely walkable to the 18th & Vine District. There is basically nothing but empty grass lots between the Vine Street Apartments and the District. Had they been built along 18th Street or even closer to District, it would help to create more street life and safety. Really crazy.

And this CP project basically does the same thing. It could have created a beautiful gateway to/from the City Market.
Instead 5th Street still feels empty, unsafe and there's no connectivity.

We simply refuse to understand the "Main Street" concept and how creating one vibrant, walkable, dense street will draw more development to eventually fill in the side streets. But throwing projects haphazardly spaced away from each other will never accomplish success.

Sounds like their first few units are coming online soon.

Columbus Park lofts feature space, rents that starving artists should love

Columbus Park Developers, which finally broke ground on the CP Lofts a year ago, was selected by the Land Clearance for Redevelopment Authority more than eight years ago to transform a 22-acre Columbus Park site, once dominated by public housing and old industrial buildings, into a vibrant urban village.

The idea that this development will be a vibrant urban village is laughable.

http://tinyurl.com/zjrzchc

It already looks like 'the projects'. Worst large project in downtown area that I can't think of in last 15 years. There will be some crappy projects at times but wow, what a missed opportunity to tie Columbus Park to City Market with true urbane pedestrian scale developments.

The article sounds nice, but why take on the expense of granite countertops if you're only providing basic/builder-grade fixtures/sinks and old-school (non-flat top) cooking surfaces????

Raytown Phoenix wrote:The article sounds nice, but why take on the expense of granite countertops if you're only providing basic/builder-grade fixtures/sinks and old-school (non-flat top) cooking surfaces????

what makes you think they didn't get a deal on the granite? like it's a color that isn't selling well

Granite is not the luxury it once was.

grovester wrote:Granite is not the luxury it once was.

Agreed. Just looks a little like "here's a decent steak...side dishes consist of Cheetos and Funyans."

Its exactly what Union Hill Founders has done. In different buildings you can get the exact same floor plan, both granite, one with vinyl tile in wet areas, cheap carpet throughout, black appliances with raised stove heating elements, or ceramic tile in wet areas, wood floor in living dining, stainless appliance with flat ceramic stove. Price difference monthly $300-$500.