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Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:35 pm
by dnweava
Plans were submitted to the city. I can't believe another drive thru restaurant is going to be allowed in the urban core.... completely absurd.

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:00 pm
by smh
M-1.5 zoning strikes again!

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:36 pm
by KCPowercat
Previously being discussed here but probably deserves it's own thread given the drive thru
viewtopic.php?t=5701&start=3300

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:01 pm
by DaveKCMO
smh wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:00 pm M-1.5 zoning strikes again!
But it still requires a variance...

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:59 am
by KCPowercat
Get some funds together to incentivize someone to build something up to the curb that also incorporates a "Welcome to Crossroads" entrance sign.

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:11 am
by smh
DaveKCMO wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:01 pm
smh wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:00 pm M-1.5 zoning strikes again!
But it still requires a variance...
Oh, does it? I thought it was by right. Glad to hear, sounds like people should let the City know they don't want any drive thrus downtown.

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:20 am
by DaveKCMO
smh wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:11 am
DaveKCMO wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:01 pm
smh wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:00 pm M-1.5 zoning strikes again!
But it still requires a variance...
Oh, does it? I thought it was by right. Glad to hear, sounds like people should let the City know they don't want any drive thrus downtown.
Actually, you're right. It's moving swiftly.

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:52 am
by Highlander
DaveKCMO wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:20 am
smh wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:11 am
DaveKCMO wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:01 pm

But it still requires a variance...
Oh, does it? I thought it was by right. Glad to hear, sounds like people should let the City know they don't want any drive thrus downtown.
Actually, you're right. It's moving swiftly.
Alas, the only time a drive thru moves swiftly is when you don't want it to.

Wasn't there a thread recently about the paucity of fast food near downtown? . Somebody recognizes the demand but it seems a drive thru remains a prerequisite. More foot traffic and the drive thru probably isn't necessary.

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:09 am
by DaveKCMO
It'll probably be a Whataburger. I'm told Mahomes "really wants to be downtown".

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:12 am
by Cratedigger
DaveKCMO wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:09 am It'll probably be a Whataburger. I'm told Mahomes "really wants to be downtown".
Put a 24/7 hamburger chain right next to another 24/7 hamburger joint

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:29 am
by KC_Ari
Cratedigger wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:12 am
DaveKCMO wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:09 am It'll probably be a Whataburger. I'm told Mahomes "really wants to be downtown".
Put a 24/7 hamburger chain right next to another 24/7 hamburger joint
Faceless corporation attempting to push out a local business? Name a more iconic duo.

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:58 pm
by TheSmokinPun
I don't think a single one of the out of the box franchise designs Whataburger has would possibly ever fit into that space. The ones here have those stupid Chick-Fil-A style drive thrus with multiple lanes.

Only looks to me like a Scooter's or Dutch Bros could really make anything work in that spot when it comes to chains. I'd love to see something like the Dutch Bros near the Timbers stadium in Portland, OR. One of few locations to have indoor seating & drive thru is bikes only. Doesn't have to be a chain, any coffee shop here could make it work.

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:47 pm
by Cratedigger
TheSmokinPun wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:58 pm I don't think a single one of the out of the box franchise designs Whataburger has would possibly ever fit into that space. The ones here have those stupid Chick-Fil-A style drive thrus with multiple lanes.

Only looks to me like a Scooter's or Dutch Bros could really make anything work in that spot when it comes to chains. I'd love to see something like the Dutch Bros near the Timbers stadium in Portland, OR. One of few locations to have indoor seating & drive thru is bikes only. Doesn't have to be a chain, any coffee shop here could make it work.
It would be kinda neat if Spokes or the filling station along gillham did something like that

But I'm skeptical that they could drive enough traffic to make a bike drive thru worth it

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:04 pm
by dnweava
DaveKCMO wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:09 am It'll probably be a Whataburger. I'm told Mahomes "really wants to be downtown".
https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... b=moreinfo

"Pancho's is a established local business with 4 restaurants and intends to tear down the existing structure at 520 Southwest Blvd and reconstruct a drive thru and carry out restaurant with limited indoor seating to serve the surrounding neighborhood."

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:18 pm
by langosta
dnweava wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:04 pm
DaveKCMO wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:09 am It'll probably be a Whataburger. I'm told Mahomes "really wants to be downtown".
https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... b=moreinfo

"Pancho's is a established local business with 4 restaurants and intends to tear down the existing structure at 520 Southwest Blvd and reconstruct a drive thru and carry out restaurant with limited indoor seating to serve the surrounding neighborhood."
IF people want to drive through Panchos they can drive the 5-10 minutes to the other location. They do not need a drive through here

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:07 am
by grovester
Drunk food for drunk drivers.

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:20 pm
by Chris Stritzel
langosta wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:18 pm
dnweava wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:04 pm
DaveKCMO wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:09 am It'll probably be a Whataburger. I'm told Mahomes "really wants to be downtown".
https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... b=moreinfo

"Pancho's is a established local business with 4 restaurants and intends to tear down the existing structure at 520 Southwest Blvd and reconstruct a drive thru and carry out restaurant with limited indoor seating to serve the surrounding neighborhood."
IF people want to drive through Panchos they can drive the 5-10 minutes to the other location. They do not need a drive through here
This one makes sense when the new Pancho's at Linwood and Main has had no movement recently.

Re: Drive Thru @ 520 Southwest Blvd.

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:50 am
by beautyfromashes
Chris Stritzel wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:20 pm This one makes sense when the new Pancho's at Linwood and Main has had no movement recently.
That location is called Ranchos and there has been some construction on it recently. When the original location sold for development they bought the old Subway but since developments been delayed on US Bank, perhaps they’ll stay there longer. Southwest Blvd looks to be original Panchos name after a family feud split the establishment.