KCRag Forum

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:31 pm People use KC tenants like a freaking crutch. They aren't that powerful. It's pure inept KC leadership. Just like this vote was purely on the owners but everybody blaming KC tenants. Lol.

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:02 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:31 pm People use KC tenants like a freaking crutch. They aren't that powerful. It's pure inept KC leadership. Just like this vote was purely on the owners but everybody blaming KC tenants. Lol.

KC, JACO & Royals leadership are all inept, no question, but you’re naive if you think the Tenants don’t have any political pull. A not so insignificant amount of their voting block is in my age bracket, and it’s ever expanding. More of my age bracket is VERY supportive of Marxist ideology than you’d believe. Do they have the ability to control everything about KCMO or JACO? Nah, but they have the ability to sway elections if they try…

GRID wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:53 pm At this point, I think the Chiefs are better off in KS.

I have conceeded that there is no stopping the continued migration of KC's economy and culture to the KS side.

TheUrbanRoo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:57 pm Ok DCole but here’s what you’re not getting…if the Chiefs “aren’t going anywhere” then they’re gonna have to do a HELL of alot more than they showed in those renderings. They might need a dome, they will atleast need a whole new exterior. Prob some legit development there too.

Kansas will offer all of that. If Missouri can get atleast close to that then yeah they’ll stay. But def not with that shit they just showed us.

DColeKC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:54 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:33 pm

GRID wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:22 pm If KS is able to put together a proposal to build the Chiefs a brand new modern stadium, how is MO going to compete with that? Would they be able to? And if MO somehow does find a billion or more dollars for the Chiefs, what happens to the Royals? Is MO going to come up with money for two new stadiums? The Royals are going to need state help if they are staying in MO.

I think the Chiefs are off to KS and the Royals are off to NKC and Jackson County will continue to deteriorate outside of Lee's Summit and western KCMO.

Royals will give downtown another shot. Chiefs to Kansas won't hurt most peoples feelings but I doubt it happens.

What?! You will see outrage like you've never seen before if they suggest they're going to leave Arrowhead. It will make the "save the K' group look like pre-school children.

The Chiefs aren't going anywhere but they need to let people think it's a possibility to get what they want. Let Kansas think they've got a chance, city and state step up and we're settled for 25 years.

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:02 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:31 pm People use KC tenants like a freaking crutch. They aren't that powerful. It's pure inept KC leadership. Just like this vote was purely on the owners but everybody blaming KC tenants. Lol.

KC, JACO & Royals leadership are all inept, no question, but you’re naive if you think the Tenants don’t have any political pull. A not so insignificant amount of their voting block is in my age bracket, and it’s ever expanding. More of my age bracket is VERY supportive of Marxist ideology than you’d believe. Do they have the ability to control everything about KCMO or JACO? Nah, but they have the ability to sway elections if they try…

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:31 pm People use KC tenants like a freaking crutch. They aren't that powerful. It's pure inept KC leadership. Just like this vote was purely on the owners but everybody blaming KC tenants. Lol.

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:38 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:31 pm People use KC tenants like a freaking crutch. They aren't that powerful. It's pure inept KC leadership. Just like this vote was purely on the owners but everybody blaming KC tenants. Lol.

I'm getting sick of it. This is becoming a textbook example of scapegoating and it's really gross.

Metro wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:49 pm

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:38 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:31 pm People use KC tenants like a freaking crutch. They aren't that powerful. It's pure inept KC leadership. Just like this vote was purely on the owners but everybody blaming KC tenants. Lol.

I'm getting sick of it. This is becoming a textbook example of scapegoating and it's really gross.

Disagree. They have money and are organized not too many other groups you can say that about in KC. Had they came out in favor of this it likely would have passed.

shinatoo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:27 pm

DColeKC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:54 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:33 pm

Royals will give downtown another shot. Chiefs to Kansas won't hurt most peoples feelings but I doubt it happens.

What?! You will see outrage like you've never seen before if they suggest they're going to leave Arrowhead. It will make the "save the K' group look like pre-school children.

The Chiefs aren't going anywhere but they need to let people think it's a possibility to get what they want. Let Kansas think they've got a chance, city and state step up and we're settled for 25 years.

Correct. Chiefs are a state-level boarder war battle now. A war that won't get hot until the Royals have plan in place. And that could be several years. Look at Oakland and Tampa.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:16 pm

Metro wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:49 pm

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:38 pm

I'm getting sick of it. This is becoming a textbook example of scapegoating and it's really gross.

Disagree. They have money and are organized not too many other groups you can say that about in KC. Had they came out in favor of this it likely would have passed.

lol

MayorQ wrote: Don't believe the noise. We are committed to retention of our teams with vastly lower expenses--think needed infrastructure build out--than even an intra-metro move. Both teams will be in KCMO in 2040 and long after.

MidKC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:50 pm KCTenants absolutely has a good amount of power in this city. Especially with young black and progressive voters, which is a large part of the voters in Jackson Co.

Metro wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:24 pm

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:16 pm

Metro wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:49 pm

Disagree. They have money and are organized not too many other groups you can say that about in KC. Had they came out in favor of this it likely would have passed.

lol

I get it man you didn't get your little stadium now youre all aggro about it. Yeah KC Tennants have no power. Organization and money mean nothing in local elections. Maybe they should all just post about downtown on a 20 person website instead

DColeKC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:59 am

Imarealperson wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:02 am

dnweava wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:27 am Just a reminder that Kansas only earned $7 million from sports betting for it's first full year. Sports betting tax revenue will not pay for a stadium alone in either state so we don't have to worry about Kansas being able to use that to build the Chiefs a $2 billion dome capable of hosting superbowls/final fours like they may want. I also don't think the NFL or NCAA would have any interest in hosting events at the legends when so many cities have downtown domes and Chicago and Nashville are about to join that downtown Dome list of cities like Detroit, Indy, New Orleans, etc They aren't hosting their event in a field in Kansas over downtown in a cool city.

MO has twice the population, and some of that $7 million is coming from MO residents living in KC that drive to KS to bet, so you can expect that to go down once MO legalizes it. Let's say the state of MO offers the Chiefs $10-15 million/year from expected sports betting revenue, there would still be a big gap in funding to fill.

Houston, Phoenix are both NCAA sites that have little around them. Plus Arlington.

Arlington might not have great residential around the stadium but it's a perfect setup for big events. Glendale Arizona is great too with the development right there and a big new VIA resort being built up.