KU/KCK <-----> TSC East/West Transit

[DaveKCMO]

The next public meeting for this project is Nov. 9.
https://ridekc.org/planning/eastwesttransit

[TheUrbanRoo]

Streetcar from KUMC to Vanbrunt

What?

[alejandro46]

The negative report coming back from the KC Star regarding the construction overages to the Riverfront extension shouldn't hinder this effort. If this is built and built correctly, it'll be transformational for the city and east side.

There's so much potential in vacant lots, dilapidated apartment buildings, homes, as well as struggling or nascent commercial developments ($162M+ Troost Village, struggling Prospect Sun Fresh heavily subsidized by KCMO) that can be improved and revitalized.

However, it should be done holistically and won't be cheap. Considerations for keeping existing housing units in the area affordable and building and improving sidewalks and crosswalks along the route are bare minimum things that should be contemplated. Without properly explaining and highlighting those things to the community, any potential vote will go the same way as the NextRail one that got shot down.

[Chris Stritzel]

One benefit of the apparent East-West alignment is that track will be shared from 39th to Linwood with the Main Street line (or roughly a mile). That could save some money.

[Jblanco]

KU/KCK <-----> TSC East/West Transit is a loser.
It would be the worst thing that can possibly happen right now.
No one in KCK wants to go to Van Brunt. Nobody on the east side of KCMO wants to go to KCK.

Do you people that are for this even live here? There are no amenities or attractions on this route. No major employers, no residential density. Nothing!

KCATA and the Streetcar will apply for any grant money, even if it is to find out if pickles cure faster on the streetcar.

Anything KC does that is E-W should be limited to 12th Street, from West Bottoms to the EV, and only then IF the new MLB stadium is done.

[Chris Stritzel]

KU Med is a job center. The 39th and Main corridors feature entertainment, restaurants, shops, jobs, and housing, the Linwood Corridor is set up well to accommodate new construction. This isn’t a loser of a transit investment at all. People on the east side, who live on this route, would use it to get closer to jobs. Some will even use it to get to the doctor.

[TheUrbanRoo]

I think they should just build KU Med to Main, and then just focus on 12th st downtown.

[Cratedigger]

KU Med is a job center. The 39th and Main corridors feature entertainment, restaurants, shops, jobs, and housing, the Linwood Corridor is set up well to accommodate new construction. This isn’t a loser of a transit investment at all. People on the east side, who live on this route, would use it to get closer to jobs. Some will even use it to get to the doctor.

Not to mention the KC VA medical center and those that work/seek care there too.

Having connections to nodes such as 39th st and martini corner is extremely valuable.

[alejandro46]

KU/KCK <-----> TSC East/West Transit is a loser.
It would be the worst thing that can possibly happen right now.
No one in KCK wants to go to Van Brunt. Nobody on the east side of KCMO wants to go to KCK.

Do you people that are for this even live here? There are no amenities or attractions on this route. No major employers, no residential density. Nothing!

KCATA and the Streetcar will apply for any grant money, even if it is to find out if pickles cure faster on the streetcar.

Anything KC does that is E-W should be limited to 12th Street, from West Bottoms to the EV, and only then IF the new MLB stadium is done.

The Federal Government apparently disagrees with you! It looks like a huge new partnership to help unlock financing and growth for $15 BILLION dollars worth of infrastructure projects throughout KC including this proposed line.

Honestly, this kind of negativity is not needed here. We can disagree and have opinions of course. But this generalization "nobody wants." "Do you even live here" attacks are not contributing in any way and I suggest you go read Tonys KC or shout at the clouds, maybe they'll listen.

https://www.transportation.gov/briefing ... bility-and

Awesome news!

[TheUrbanRoo]

Mayor Q has been such a fantastic mayor for KC. He took alot of shit early on. He’s been immensely better than was projected.

[Jblanco]

KU Med Ctr and VA Hospital are not enough to invest billions in dedicated transit.
A stop here is not going to have many patients and workers riders willing to walk 1/2 mile uphill to the buildings. It's an absurd and nonsensical idea.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/iXqA4NuZF6m4zZs9A

Honestly, this kind of negativity is not needed here. We can disagree and have opinions of course. But this generalization "nobody wants."

Cry all you want, I can tell you're not from KC and are just another talking head that hates real and viable ideas. There's nothing honest about your condescension.

39th St from Rainbow to Troost is viable.

Anything else is a complete waste of resources. Linwood, Van Brunt, Truman Rd, all of these streets are dead and only getting worse. The same stupid ideas of ignoring critical mass and urbanity that gave us Truman in a decrepit neighborhood and Kemper isolated in the West Bottoms is the same stupidity in a plan to go from KCK to anywhere.

[TheSmokinPun]

We're not building this for the people in JoCo or out in East Jax. This is for the residents, this is what the PUBLIC in public transit is supposed to stand for.

I always look at it like we build the test line that was mainly used by everyone & tourist as well, then once that succeeded, we expanded it to an actual real transit line. This will be the second big one, all for KCMO residents & workers to use. It just makes sense.

Also, accusing people of not being from KC on here is so silly. We only have STL invaders here & they can't help but announce themselves through the screen name or post they make.

[langosta]

Linwood scored highly in the last study. 12th bridge construction is Extremly high per mile.

[DaveKCMO]

Linwood scored highly in the last study.

The highest after Main Street South, actually. Today's "Build America Bureau" pegs the cost at $1.5 billion (versus $10.5 billion to go to KCI).

[langosta]

Linwood scored highly in the last study.

The highest after Main Street South, actually. Today's "Build America Bureau" pegs the cost at $1.5 billion (versus $10.5 billion to go to KCI).

The streetcar costs study team related to me was closer to $700 million this summer. Is $1.5 billion a true light rail product?

[daGOAT]

KU/KCK <-----> TSC East/West Transit is a loser.
It would be the worst thing that can possibly happen right now.
No one in KCK wants to go to Van Brunt. Nobody on the east side of KCMO wants to go to KCK.

Do you people that are for this even live here? There are no amenities or attractions on this route. No major employers, no residential density. Nothing!

KCATA and the Streetcar will apply for any grant money, even if it is to find out if pickles cure faster on the streetcar.

Anything KC does that is E-W should be limited to 12th Street, from West Bottoms to the EV, and only then IF the new MLB stadium is done.

not true at all the EA reppin the town from both sides of the water. Everybody from the hood tapped in with Kansas, which is basically the Westside of the city if weren't for state lines.

[GRID]

KU/KCK <-----> TSC East/West Transit is a loser.
It would be the worst thing that can possibly happen right now.
No one in KCK wants to go to Van Brunt. Nobody on the east side of KCMO wants to go to KCK.

Do you people that are for this even live here? There are no amenities or attractions on this route. No major employers, no residential density. Nothing!

KCATA and the Streetcar will apply for any grant money, even if it is to find out if pickles cure faster on the streetcar.

Anything KC does that is E-W should be limited to 12th Street, from West Bottoms to the EV, and only then IF the new MLB stadium is done.

Nahh. Midtown needs an east/west transit corridor. This route would mostly feed into the Main Street tram line giving people along the E/W route access to much of the center city. You have solid residential density along the route with potential for much more, you have KU Med anchoring one end and the VA hospital on the other end and just decent residential along the route. Better E/W is much needed and it would be used.

The West Bottoms has hardly anybody and few jobs that people don't drive trucks to and it will take decades for it to build out enough to even warrant a bus line, let alone a very expensive rail connection to get down there. Going east from Downtown would be far more important.

[Jblanco]

not true at all the EA reppin the town from both sides of the water. Everybody from the hood tapped in with Kansas, which is basically the Westside of the city if weren't for state lines.

WTF is that? You're incoherent.

Spending billions to run dedicated transit from KCK to the East side is throwing $$ away.
It would be a worse failure than Denver's tragic West Line waste that no one rides.
It's not negative to criticize a worthless idea.

A short line down 39th from Rainbow to Troost = fine. At least you have Westport, Plaza, St Lukes and KUMed involved. But I still don't see it as a maximum payoff.

Those $$ can be better spent in the core. Sure the 12th Street Bridge is more costly because it's a bridge and has a steep incline, so what? It would still connect KC's most up and coming neighborhood (West Bottoms) to T-Mobile and the new MLB stadium. That's progress!

[GRID]

KU Med Ctr and VA Hospital are not enough to invest billions in dedicated transit.
A stop here is not going to have many patients and workers riders willing to walk 1/2 mile uphill to the buildings. It's an absurd and nonsensical idea.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/iXqA4NuZF6m4zZs9A

Honestly, this kind of negativity is not needed here. We can disagree and have opinions of course. But this generalization "nobody wants."

Cry all you want, I can tell you're not from KC and are just another talking head that hates real and viable ideas. There's nothing honest about your condescension.

39th St from Rainbow to Troost is viable.

Anything else is a complete waste of resources. Linwood, Van Brunt, Truman Rd, all of these streets are dead and only getting worse. The same stupid ideas of ignoring critical mass and urbanity that gave us Truman in a decrepit neighborhood and Kemper isolated in the West Bottoms is the same stupidity in a plan to go from KCK to anywhere.

Maybe they can actually place the tram stop up at the hospital? There is also a lot of open land near the VA hospital to develop.

[DaveKCMO]

The next public meeting for this project is Nov. 9.
https://ridekc.org/planning/eastwesttransit

Register to join today at noon! The project is not yet in design, so this is the chance to influence the big decisions!

https://ridekc.org/planning/eastwesttransit