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Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:25 pm
by warwickland
KCtoBrooklyn wrote: āWed Oct 30, 2019 4:24 pm
It seems a little odd to me that they are putting the practice fields right there. I guess it would be nice for the team, but it seems like a waste of space - something that would be better suited in a more suburban area.
at first glance i agree (and practice facilities ARE usually located in the suburbs), but at the same time this area of downtown is seriously injured with parking lots, grass hells, and the expressway spur so iād rather see this - for now at least.
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:29 am
by warwickland
the practice fields evidently have a parking garage beneath them. beats an above grade parking garage, of which st. louis is lousy with. additionally, a lot of MLS stadiums have practice fields nearby by design, including philly, montreal, LA, denver has like two dozen.
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:05 am
by KCtoBrooklyn
None of those stadiums you mention are in urban, downtown locations besides Montreal, but that is located in a large park. If there is any space in Forrest Park to use for training facilities, that might make more sense.
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:08 pm
by rxlexi
If we had any competent leadership at the time, this is what should have been done in KC. Downtown stadium on the Missouri side, training and youth complex on the Kansas side. Everyone wins.
Alas...
Even an MLS stadium in downtown KCK would have been hugely preferable to the current location. Actually would have been very cool and possibly given that area a major shot in the arm. Major missed opportunity. Alas, indeed.
Chris, thanks for the renderings of the new STL stadium. Like Warwick said this will suck up a massive blackhole in downtown west STL - it really is a no man's land right now. Like that it is built right up to the street on the Market street side.
Not sure about the relatively spartan new design. It is quite elegant, in a spare sort of way, and looks well planned and indeed very open to the street. But it is certainly rather minimalist compared to the prior designs. Reminds me a bit of the new MCI terminal, actually.
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:06 am
by warwickland
KCtoBrooklyn wrote: āThu Oct 31, 2019 11:05 am
None of those stadiums you mention are in urban, downtown locations besides Montreal, but that is located in a large park. If there is any space in Forrest Park to use for training facilities, that might make more sense.
it's been implied that these are "placeholders" for potential future more intensive development, so i'd still rather have this than the current expressway spur/stub/vestigial whatever (I-755) nightmare or vacant lot.
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:18 am
by warwickland
here's another rendering showing the practice fields and how they (and the fact that it is a garage) relate to the immediate built environment. shows an endcap building, which i hope is of substance and not just a SLU style elevator bank/stairwells.
mls4thelou.com
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:03 pm
by Chris Stritzel
The building you see in that rendering is the Team HQ. Up to 3-stories.
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:55 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:00 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:09 pm
by StL_Dan
Love this!!!
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:05 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 11:07 am
by StL_Dan
Sweet! Thanks, Chris!
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:21 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:21 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:53 am
by kman
Beautiful....1st class!
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:25 am
by StL_Dan
Awesome!
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:26 pm
by GRID
Such a great location for a MLS stadium. Well done St Louis.
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:39 pm
by langosta
KC could use one of these over one of our many urban freeways.
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:59 am
by flyingember
GRID wrote: āMon Mar 15, 2021 4:26 pm
Such a great location for a MLS stadium. Well done St Louis.
Wow, I missed it's next to Union Station the first time.
That is a nice spot
Re: STL MLS proposal resurrection
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:37 pm
by Chris Stritzel