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Re: OFFICIAL - Reverb (1800 Walnut)

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:25 am
by FangKC
Copaken Brooks Apartment Tower Starts Construction in November
Construction is expected to begin in November on the 14-story Copaken Brooks apartment tower at 18th and Walnut, with completion anticipated in spring 2020.

The $40 million project will bring residential life in the Crossroads Arts District to a new level, adding 132 apartments to the neighborhood as well as additional retail and possibly a rooftop public bar.

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https://cityscenekc.com/copaken-brooks- ... -november/

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(Image from Copaken Brooks)

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:44 am
by kboish
That is a sexy rendering. My concerns about Walnut's street level are tiny in comparison to my overall enthusiasm for this project. Glad it is getting to construction so fast. It is really nice to see a project like this in KC.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:57 am
by KCPowercat
Sidewalks are already blocked.


Not really but I assume we won't get sidewalks.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:58 am
by Chris Stritzel
So exciting! I was thinking about this recently and now my question has been answered. This one moved pretty quick through the process. Maybe leasing at Arterra is going fast enough that they wanted to pull it all together and build it quickly.
FangKC wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:25 am Image
It will look nice once done and there are really no real surprises here like at Arterra. Can’t wait to see it rise!

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:11 am
by grovester
Chris Stritzel wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:58 am So exciting! I was thinking about this recently and now my question has been answered. This one moved pretty quick through the process. Maybe leasing at Arterra is going fast enough that they wanted to pull it all together and build it quickly.
FangKC wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:25 am Image
It will look nice once done and there are really no real surprises here like at Arterra. Can’t wait to see it rise!
Pretty sure those wavy sections will turn out to be paper towels.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:19 am
by Chris Stritzel
grovester wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:11 am
Pretty sure those wavy sections will turn out to be paper towels.
:lol:

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:56 am
by geeman68
Chris Stritzel wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:19 am
grovester wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:11 am
Pretty sure those wavy sections will turn out to be paper towels.
:lol:
Bounty... The quicker picker upper

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:58 am
by chrizow
are these apartments or condos?

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:05 am
by flyingember
grovester wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:11 am Pretty sure those wavy sections will turn out to be paper towels.
Based on recent experiences they'll actually be gray.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:10 am
by smh
chrizow wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:58 am are these apartments or condos?
Apartments of course.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:10 am
by smh
flyingember wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:05 am
grovester wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:11 am Pretty sure those wavy sections will turn out to be paper towels.
Based on recent experiences they'll actually be gray.
Not Pictured: Dozens of dryer vents.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:29 am
by anonkcmo
I don't like the waves.
IMO they are neither artistic nor are attractive.
They will also block outward views while making the building look unfinished (at first glance).
Thankfully they only appear on the east side of the building.
IMO this look doesn't fit The Crossroads rugged and industrial feel.
I hope they think long and hard before adding that extra garbage.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:46 am
by anonkcmo
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Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:50 am
by flyingember
anonkcmo wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:29 am I don't like the waves.
IMO they are neither artistic nor are attractive.
They will also block outward views while making the building look unfinished (at first glance).
Thankfully they only appear on the east side of the building.
IMO this look doesn't fit The Crossroads rugged and industrial feel.
I hope they think long and hard before adding that extra garbage.
The Crossroads' largest building is designed entirely out of smooth curves.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:22 pm
by rxlexi
I think this looks fantastic - great addition to the xroads and a nice piece of regional architecture. As always, would like to have seen it significantly taller (with more units added right in the heart of xroads), but very happy with the dynamic design.

I am surprised that the majority of units will be studios/1BRs. Would like to see more higher end buildings with larger units that can go condo at some point, rather than maintaining downtown as a stop on the way to the burbs for young folks. The market for for-sale units (condo or townhome) has seen so few new additions since the crash - would be nice to have more options for couples/families that want to stay in/invest downtown. Understand this is a trend nationwide but want to see it start to turn at some point.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:23 pm
by AlbertHammond
kboish wrote: Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:34 pm This image gives a better look at how little active use there is on the ground floor.
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kboish has it right. We must not be wowed by the building as a piece of sculpture. Look only at the bottom floor or two to see if it is good urbanism. This building is brutal from that view. At the pedestrian scale, 75% of this design is despondent and brutal. The 25% with storefronts can't make up for all the 'bad' happening here.

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Sure, adding a building with housing and a bit of retail is good, but this is not as good as it could be.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:00 pm
by moderne
Will this be slightly taller than the Corrigan bldng?

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:06 pm
by flyingember
Looks like Corrigan is 145 feet to the top roof
https://www.emporis.com/buildings/12180 ... ity-mo-usa

At ~156 feet, looks like it.

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:21 pm
by anonkcmo
flyingember wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:50 am
anonkcmo wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:29 am ....
IMO this look doesn't fit The Crossroads rugged and industrial feel.
....
The Crossroads' largest building is designed entirely out of smooth curves.
I hate corresponding with you (and when I say hate - it's a deep-seated loathing).
As usual your half-witted replies are veiled attempts to argue minutia, opinion and semantics.
And here again "smooth curves" on a particular building have nothing (zero) to do with my comment.
My comment is exclusively about the added texture/facade of the wave feature of 1800 Walnut.

If you're referring to 2 Pershing Sq, you are entirely wrong (as usual).
It clearly has some straight edges.... along with curved features on other corners.
https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10244473 ... 0-1062.jpg

Perhaps you're referring to another building?

Re: 1800 Walnut

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:51 pm
by cardium
The referenced building is KCPAC