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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:22 pm
by TheLastGentleman
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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:18 pm
by grecobs
This project is really starting to take shape - excited to see the cladding come online in the next few months.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:08 pm
by missingkc
Mr. LastGentleman, thanks for all the pics of downtown developments.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:00 am
by flyingember
Cindy Circo posted another view with the 11th floor going in from the upper angle

https://twitter.com/CindyCirco/status/1 ... 1862132736

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:43 pm
by GRID
Still wish this were one 40 story tower rather than two 20 story towers in an L shape. It will still be nice though.

I just hope it does what it's supposed to do. It seems like other similar sized cities are still building more hotel rooms than KC near their convention centers. Indy just announced two more hotel towers of 1400 rooms for example.

https://cbs4indy.com/2018/10/19/120m-do ... dy-hotels/

KC is adding a ton of hotel rooms downtown, but I'm not sure it's really closing the gap much on competitors. If Cerner had a major presence downtown, there would be three times the hotels going up in downtown right now.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:16 am
by KCTOGA
GRID wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:43 pm Still wish this were one 40 story tower rather than two 20 story towers in an L shape. It will still be nice though.

I just hope it does what it's supposed to do. It seems like other similar sized cities are still building more hotel rooms than KC near their convention centers. Indy just announced two more hotel towers of 1400 rooms for example.

https://cbs4indy.com/2018/10/19/120m-do ... dy-hotels/

KC is adding a ton of hotel rooms downtown, but I'm not sure it's really closing the gap much on competitors. If Cerner had a major presence downtown, there would be three times the hotels going up in downtown right now.
Agree Grid, was really hoping Loews would add 400 more rooms to this project when they took it over. A 1,200 roomer would have been fantastic!

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:17 am
by normalthings
Would have loved to see apartments or condo tacked on. I’m sure the right schedule needed to meet upcoming bookings played into not adding rooms or apartments.

If this hotel goes well, there are still a few empty nearby lots that additional Loews projects could be built on.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:09 am
by FangKC
I would think that 10 floors of apartments would rent/sell well in that location to capture some of the opera/ballet/symphony crowd.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 am
by normalthings
FangKC wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:09 am I would think that 10 floors of apartments would rent/sell well in that location to capture some of the opera/ballet/symphony crowd.
A redesign like that may have been projected to take too much time to allow the building to be built in time for planned events.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 am
by flyingember
It took around 10 years of talking with operators, banks, etc to come up with the financial arrangement for an 800 room hotel. They barely changed the design when the brand changed.

It was never going to be anything except what it is today after about 2016.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:51 am
by WoodDraw
flyingember wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 am It took around 10 years of talking with operators, banks, etc to come up with the financial arrangement for an 800 room hotel. They barely changed the design when the brand changed.

It was never going to be anything except what it is today after about 2016.
Especially without more $$$$$

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:33 am
by rxlexi
It took around 10 years of talking with operators, banks, etc to come up with the financial arrangement for an 800 room hotel. They barely changed the design when the brand changed.

It was never going to be anything except what it is today after about 2016.
Is interesting to compare this to Indy, as GRID referenced. They opened their new JW Marriot downtown (~1000 rooms?) a few years ago, prior to the Super Bowl, and are already finalizing plans for another 1400 rooms in high-rise format across the street from their convention center.

Like GRID, am hoping this new Loews is a catalyst to again place KC among the top of the convention heap among midwestern metros.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:03 pm
by KCLover
Photo from Reddit, but you can see the tower rising.
https://i.redd.it/9zkf954zjyw11.jpg
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Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:52 pm
by LCDSI
How tall will the tower be when it's completed? I'm guessing just under the P&L building?

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:32 pm
by TheLastGentleman
I think about the height of two light

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:15 pm
by mister816
LCDSI wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:52 pm How tall will the tower be when it's completed? I'm guessing just under the P&L building?
Loews Hotel will be 237 ft Occupied, 279 ft Architectual and 23 floors. To put that in perspective, Two light is 250 ft and 24 floors.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:14 pm
by normalthings
Adjusted for inflation, LOEWS Chicago's construction cost was roughly $210-215million.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:33 am
by moderne
Crowne Plaza is 280'. Do not know what the elevation difference is at 13th & Wyandotte from Truman and Baltimore.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:04 am
by flyingember
moderne wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:33 am Crowne Plaza is 280'. Do not know what the elevation difference is at 13th & Wyandotte from Truman and Baltimore.
35-40 feet.

Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:43 pm
by KCLover
The structure won't be any taller than the taller tower crane on the left. They don't have the climbing frame on that one, but they do have one on the right shorter crane so it will be raised at some point.