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Bike lanes added on the repaved portions of Charlotte south of 670. Looks like they will be painting them on as well to Cherry around CP to at least where it hits Charlotte.

the city is updating their Bike KC plan; public meetings tonight and thursday: http://kcmo.org/CKCMO/NewsArchives/061313A

No, Bike Lanes Don't Hurt Retail Business

So that happened. After the city removed 65th Street's 12 parking spots and striped a bike lane there instead, the sales index in the corridor exploded 400 percent. Now keep in mind that Rowe didn't have the experimental controls to say that the bike lane caused the increase — some other factor may have played a greater or contributing role — but it's quite safe to say business didn't suffer from it.

didn't have the experimental controls to say that the bike lane caused the increase — some other factor may have played a greater or contributing role — but it's quite safe to say business didn't suffer from it.

As one of my college instructors would have said "Business might have increased more without the bike lanes and with the parking spots."

aknowledgeableperson wrote:

didn't have the experimental controls to say that the bike lane caused the increase — some other factor may have played a greater or contributing role — but it's quite safe to say business didn't suffer from it.

As one of my college instructors would have said "Business might have increased more without the bike lanes and with the parking spots."

Was that in PHIL 201, Sophomoric Arguments and Questionable Logic?

Much like during one of our case studies in reviewing a company. Of course the company had some problems but nobody seemed to question seriously the leader of the company since he had, say, 30 years in the business and should know what he is doing. The instructor pointed out was it 30 years of experience or one year experience repeated 29 times.

So the business grew in this instance. Speculation that bike lanes didn't hurt the businesses, that is all.

So, I guess, if you agree with a statement you accept blindly without any question.

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aknowledgeableperson wrote:

didn't have the experimental controls to say that the bike lane caused the increase — some other factor may have played a greater or contributing role — but it's quite safe to say business didn't suffer from it.

As one of my college instructors would have said "Business might have increased more without the bike lanes and with the parking spots."

Infinite monkeys, Shakespeare, and so on.

If you want to accept the statement blindly, without question, then go ahead. Even the person making the statement says it can't be proven, it is just an assumption. So sales exploded 400%. With parking spaces it could have been more. Or less. The point is it is still a silly assumption, just pure speculation.

aknowledgeableperson wrote:If you want to accept the statement blindly, without question, then go ahead. Even the person making the statement says it can't be proven, it is just an assumption. So sales exploded 400%. With parking spaces it could have been more. Or less. The point is it is still a silly assumption, just pure speculation.

You could always look at the trailing 24/36/whatever months of sales before the parking came out. Wouldn't be strictly scientific but it would give you a good idea if what was more likely to happen with the parking situation unchanged. Random 400% increases in businesses seem like they would be rare events.

Was in NOLA last weekend after a 6 year break. One noticeable improvement was the Esplanade Ave road diet. It used to be a 4 lane expressway out of the quarter, now it's one lane each way with bike lanes and on street parking. Not coincidentally restaurants have sprouted and there is regular bike traffic between the quarter and city park/New Orleans Museum of Art. About the only exception is under the I-10 freeway, which still looks like hell. Gives me great hope for SW Blvd between DT and Merriam.

Charlotte street's bike lane has been extended to 20th street. And it is an actual full bike lane, not the sharrow from approx. 8th-12th. Glad to see this getting built out...such an easy improvement/amenity that cost very little.

google maps should update shortly. added the bike lane through 19th (there's no Charlotte and 20th and it's easier to not fight that fact with google maps)

flyingember wrote:google maps should update shortly. added the bike lane through 19th (there's no Charlotte and 20th and it's easier to not fight that fact with google maps)

I didn't see exactly where it stopped, but roughly around the bridge over the trench (which would be 20th if it existed there)

DaveKCMO wrote:

What city is THAT in? I saw some other pictures of it on the internet and they were installing streetcar rails. SO JEALOUS. Wish KC would do cool things like that someday. Sigh.

Looks like Indianapolis is doing it right. Has anyone here seen this new trail system in Indy? Is it as good as this video proclaims?

http://www.treehugger.com/cars/biggest- ... about.html

Another extremely flat city.

city announced this morning they will seek the silver "bike-friendly community" designation in 2015.