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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:44 pm
by DaveKCMO
wasn't the problem the number of section 8 properties? if they're down to just the one, surely further gentrification isn't needed. ;-)

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:14 pm
by chaglang
Ha. It's the mix. Bainbridge is 100% affordable. Some of the other MAC buildings on Armour, like the Belreve, are 50% affordable.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:10 pm
by JBmidtown
I dunno, poor people need places to live too.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:30 am
by FangKC
You can't have that high a percentage of low income residents in any one building. The goal should be 10-15 percent of apartments rented to low income residents unless it's a seniors-only apartment community. Most tenant problems are among younger people. Seniors are pretty-well behaved.

You need to have a high percentage of market-rate renters who will not tolerate bad neighbors, and whom keep renters with behavioral problems in check--meaning they complain.

If standards are low, then bad actors will rule the building, and other low income residents with standards will be too afraid to complain. Building management makes a HUGE difference as well.

The other thing is that it's often not the actual residents per se causing the problems, but their VISITORS. Many low-income residents are women with bad actor family members, ex-husbands, and boyfriends, or just shady friends in general. This is where management has to make it clear to residents that THEY will be evicted if their visitors cause any more problems.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:41 am
by missingkc
Helpful analysis, Fang. Thanks.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:48 pm
by KCtoBrooklyn
The newly renovated buildings on Armour between Baltimore and Wyandotte look terrific. I'm really glad they weren't demolished.

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Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:56 pm
by Midtownkid
Yes they look amazing! I'm glad people stepped up to save them. It's such a beautiful block

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:36 pm
by grovester
Those are incredible.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:18 pm
by FangKC
These buildings are so handsome. It's hard to believe that they came so close to being demolished. The larger building done in red, instead of that creamy color it was before, really makes it pop out.

Before:

http://tinyurl.com/ybr3hr7j

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:28 pm
by Highlander
Fantastic renovation. But how many apartments could you even fit in the smaller buildings? Two? Those buildings are not much bigger than an average size SF home.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:37 pm
by KCtoBrooklyn
Highlander wrote:Fantastic renovation. But how many apartments could you even fit in the smaller buildings?
8 units in each.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:21 pm
by beautyfromashes
As many mistakes as the homes association has made in that neighborhood, you have to give them some credit for getting MAC to buy these and then to keep them from tearing them down for a new build.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:31 am
by DaveKCMO
beautyfromashes wrote:As many mistakes as the homes association has made in that neighborhood, you have to give them some credit for getting MAC to buy these and then to keep them from tearing them down for a new build.
they have a new president now.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:01 am
by chaglang
Despite whatever the neighborhood association thinks they did here, they're demolished at some point unless Shields provides MAC with close to 3/4 of a million in city money.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:00 am
by Riverite
No longer Marty?

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:22 am
by mykn
DaveKCMO wrote:
beautyfromashes wrote:As many mistakes as the homes association has made in that neighborhood, you have to give them some credit for getting MAC to buy these and then to keep them from tearing them down for a new build.
they have a new president now.
Don’t pretend he’s any better. If anything he’s worse.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:23 am
by mykn
Riverite wrote:No longer Marty?
We called him out on his term limits. He’s out, Scot is in, Scot is no better.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:42 am
by Riverite
mykn wrote:
Riverite wrote:No longer Marty?
We called him out on his term limits. He’s out, Scot is in, Scot is no better.

Is there still going to be an election?

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:22 pm
by mykn
Riverite wrote:
mykn wrote:
Riverite wrote:No longer Marty?
We called him out on his term limits. He’s out, Scot is in, Scot is no better.

Is there still going to be an election?
There was one a week ago. It didn’t go well. Instead, the more YIMBY members of our neighborhood have been organizing despite the HOA. We’ll try again next year.

Re: Renovations of apartment buildings along Armour Blvd.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:00 pm
by beautyfromashes
chaglang wrote:Despite whatever the neighborhood association thinks they did here, they're demolished at some point unless Shields provides MAC with close to 3/4 of a million in city money.
Damn! You’re going to make me give Shields credit now too?! Was hard enough grudgingly giving the HOA a compliment.