Why Kansas City is no good (and ways to fix it)

SonicBoi · Post by **SonicBoi** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:47 pm

fire4725 wrote:So screw you redneck hillbilly inbread sorry fool!

Oh dear! An uncalled for personal attack. That was really necessary.

trailerkid · Post by **trailerkid** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:48 pm

I'm sorry, but anybody that moves to KC and out of all the unique and vibrant areas to live picks St. Joe has problems bigger than any of us can solve. I can only imagine what that long, lonely drive up I29 north back to depressing and desolate St. Joe feels like every night.

fire4725 · Post by **fire4725** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:04 pm

Oh yeah, trailer park

What about Lawrence?

St. Joe has some bad neighborhoods but Lawrence doesnt

The entire city is a bad neighborhood!

By the way, the drive up 29 is peaceful, but sprawl keeps creeping northward.

phxcat · Post by **phxcat** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:47 pm

You know, there's actually a split second of pleasure when your sack's getting yanked in two directions......then you see your nuts on the floor and ITS OVER!

What the hell are you talking about?

Fire, you are a bandwagon jumper and you are bad at it (White Sox and the Rams?- upper mediocrity at its best!) Not only do you live in St. Joe here, but, just looking at the atlas, it looks like La Porte IN is closer to South Bend than it is to Gary, and you are about ten miles from Michigan- and about 40 to Illinois! And you are aspeaking out against sprawl? And, Northland sprawl and JoCo sprawl are based on growth- We wouyld rather people move into the city, but development on the outskirts here are a sign of overall population growth for the metro. Of course, living in St. Joe, you wouldn't understand that some cities do get bigger.

You are a hippocritical loser- and I don't throw the term loser around lightly. If you want to be constructive (and the closest you have come to constructive was saying that we need to add trollys, as if that will save the city by itself), then say something constructive. Otherwise, just shut up!

GRID · Post by **GRID** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:01 pm

You know, there's actually a split second of pleasure when your sack's getting yanked in two directions......then you see your nuts on the floor and ITS OVER!

What the hell are you talking about?

LMAO

GRID · Post by **GRID** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:05 pm

All I can say is this guy chooses some quality places to live. If your are so urban minded, why StJoe? Why not a downtown loft? Hell there are even the Northtown lofts in NKC.

Sounds like you need to find out why you are so unhappy with your life.

QueSi2Opie · Post by **QueSi2Opie** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:56 pm

Hey Fireboy, the majority of the people on this forum are a close knit group that responds to, and discusses posts in each category...for better or worse. We'll discuss sprawl, transit, sports, restaurants, etc., but for the most part we almost always agree that the best thing for KC is to invest in the urban core...the heart of the city. You can point out the flaws of the city in a constructive manner, but if you rant, rave and insult Kansas City and those individuals on this forum, you'll have absolutely no one taking you seriously.

You've lived in La Porte, Indiana and St. Joseph, Missouri? Damn hick!

And you called Tat are redneck hillbilly? LOL!

fire4725 · Post by **fire4725** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:36 pm

All I can say is this guy chooses some quality places to live. If your are so urban minded, why StJoe? Why not a downtown loft? Hell there are even the Northtown lofts in NKC.

Well, a loft would be nice, if the crime in the city wasn't so high

You've lived in La Porte, Indiana and St. Joseph, Missouri? Damn hick!

Hick? La Porte is a suburb of 2 cities, South Bend and Chicago. St Joseph is fastly becoming a suburb of 2 cities, KC and Omaha(I'm being optomistic). You wouldnt know that seeing that you probubly dont go north of the river.

Fire, you are a bandwagon jumper and you are bad at it (White Sox and the Rams?- upper mediocrity at its best!)

You just don't know a good team when you see one

it looks like La Porte IN is closer to South Bend than it is to Gary, and you are about ten miles from Michigan- and about 40 to Illinois! And you are aspeaking out against sprawl

Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois! The best of 3 worlds! Gary really isn't that bad, it gets a really bad rap but when they clean it up it will be a nice place to live, with a nice view of the Chicago skyline.

Sprawl, yes I am speaking out against it. But have you ever heard of the South Shore rail line? If you have commuter rail going directly from your town to a major downtown you can live far away from your work without clogging the highways(yeah phxcat look up I-94 on a map from La Porte to Chicago, something I do not like to drive) but then again, KC wouldnt know what its like to have a ton of rail transit

Hypocritcal? Yeah, I am a hypocrit, but you have to be hard on people who just don't see it your way.

fire4725 · Post by **fire4725** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:41 pm

And, Northland sprawl and JoCo sprawl are based on growth- We wouyld rather people move into the city, but development on the outskirts here are a sign of overall population growth for the metro

Chicago MSA-9,000,000

Kansas City MSA-1,800,000

Population growth?

Find me the numbers smart guy
(Chicago and KC growth)

when you find the #'s and you see the growth in either city isn't great, you should start makin a plan on how you want KC to grow. KC could have 9,000,000 people one day, but this isn't Phoenix

QueSi2Opie · Post by **QueSi2Opie** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:51 pm

fire4725 wrote:You wouldnt know that seeing that you probubly dont go north of the river.

Lemme see, I've been to the Glore Psychiatric Museum, Jesse James Home, Patee House Museum, Pony Express Museum, Society of Memories Doll Museum, St. Jo Frontier Casino, St. Joseph Museum, Albrecht-Kemper Museum of Art, Twin Spires Museum, St. Joseph's Scenic Parkway (Krug Park, Lover's Lane, etc.) and even your only mall. I bet I've done more in St. Joe than you have?

fire4725 wrote:Hypocritcal? Yeah, I am a hypocrit, but you have to be hard on people who just don't see it your way.

Who are you being hard on? People on this forum notice most of the flawed things you've mentioned. It's not like we're completely satisfied with everything in Kansas City. We want better public transit, a revived urban core, less sprawl (especially in JOCO), downtown stadiums/arenas, etc. The only thing we usually argue about is how these things will be paid for.

nota · Post by **nota** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:36 pm

From someone who lived in Indiana for over 20 years-LaPorte is not a 'burb of either Chicago or South Bend although it is in the area.

And it is an armpit.

zonk · Post by **zonk** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:57 pm

wow, at first i thought Fire had some good points....but after I read all, this crap I've decided that he/she is trying to stir everybody up...why is are we wasting time on this bullshit? I don't have time for this....let's talk about something productive....

KCDevin · Post by **KCDevin** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:58 pm

fire, I am sick and really freaking tired of your flaming and bashing!!!!!!
Also, your population isnt correct for the metro, for your info, the metro just grew by 4 counties changing the population!
Also, KC will be like chicago, by that time chicago will be a huge metropolis going to springfield or peoria.
Also, obviously your are ill informed. KC will in possibly 50 years be like Minneapolis in skyline and population. By that time, STL will have no one but Cincinnati and Omaha to compete with.
STJOE is the sadest part of the KC Area (not metro) you may have beautiful architecture and a semi tall tower, but really STJOE is possibly one of the worst places in the metro to grow up! Look at Eminem, one of the worst people i've ever heard of. He should start saying hes from Detroit because he is a disgrace to KC and STJOE.
Also, StJoe-Benton is a terrible school, only comparable to KC-Center in violence and lowlives.
KC Rocks, you can't take it, you can't accept what KC will become, we will be the size of LA/SF in about 20-30 years.
Our tallest building is 632ft, the tallest building ever proposed was 50+ floors, tell me if STL, Omaha, Des Moines, Springfield, Peoria, Cincinnati could ever compete with that!
After I graduate college, I will become an architect, bringing my tallest office buildings to downtown KC, I will leave all sprawl in STL, KCK, OP, etc...
Tell me KC sucks!? In fact you do. Your a disgrace to KC. I'm sorry, this is how I feel. Anyone who opposes KC should be taken as traitors and treated as such.

fire4725 · Post by **fire4725** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:18 pm

Our tallest building is 632ft, the tallest building ever proposed was 50+ floors, tell me if STL, Omaha, Des Moines, Springfield, Peoria, Cincinnati could ever compete with that!

Whoa, buddy, slow down. Can they compete, of course not, they can beat!

Des Moines, Iowa--801 Grand 630ft.

Omaha, Nebraska--One First National Center 634ft

www.skyscrapers.com

If you ever want to be an architect, you gotta know the facts!

KC's buildings are impressive, but don't say something you can't back up!!

fire4725 · Post by **fire4725** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:21 pm

I never said KC sucked either

I made this thread so people could discuss KC's problems and come up with reasonable solutions

Not to bash KC

If I thought KC sucked, I would have named the thread KC sucks!

and then put this next to the title

KCDevin · Post by **KCDevin** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:47 am

hey fire, i do look at the facts, have you looked at all of Omaha's skyscrapers?
their 2nd would be the 6th in KC, their 3rd would be 13th here.
Also, Des Moines is under 1KCP
Did either city ever have a 50+ Floor skyscraper proposed? no.
Omaha can never compete with KC, neither can STL or Des Moines!
Also, when you are looking for KC skyscraper info, go here or to skyscraperpage.com our information is much more accurate than ss.com's.
Also, its pretty lame Omaha had to build their skyscraper 2 ft above ours, you know how sad that is?!
KC compared with STL: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?4019481
KC compared with Des Moines/Omaha: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?4019468
KC compared with STL/Des Moines/Omaha sorted by pinnacle height: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?4019518
STJOE/KC: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?4019569
KC/Des Moines/Omaha sorted by built, construction, proposed & cancelled: http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?4019587
So is that enough facts for you? I am staying "cool" just want to get the facts across to him.

Post by **bahua** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:53 am

Go-go-gadget thread locker!

fire4725 · Post by **fire4725** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:50 pm

Kansas City MSA------ 2,000,000

Omaha MSA------850,000

Des Moines MSA------550,000

Big Population difference

So is that enough facts for you? I am staying "cool" just want to get the facts across to him.

Facts? There are some facts for you.

Omaha can never compete with KC, neither can STL or Des Moines

STL? Nobody like STL, thats why nobody builds there,

And, I never said a word about STL!!!

fire4725 · Post by **fire4725** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:03 pm

Go-go-gadget thread locker!

Go go gadget your a moron

How bout that

How bout dem Coyboys old Texas Chum??

Si y no

KCDevin · Post by **KCDevin** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:57 pm

...
boy you are stupid. One of the dumbest people I have ever met!
I was wanting a rise out of YOU that time. See if your a true traitor and like Omaha, DM, and STL more than our great city.
KC- Best city in Missouri/4 state area
and is possibly in the top 10 best cities in the midwest
I have been to NYC, WDC, Dallas, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Fort Worth and I still like, no love KC alot better.
So why were you saying Omaha and Des Moines were good? Especially compared to us!
We are ultimately better.
Best city in midwest IMO.
I would only want to live in 2 cities in the midwest/world, KC and Chicago.

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