mean and bahua suck

[mean]

I can only imagine if I were filthy rich, how much of my money I would throw at KC.  But I’m not, so I have is forums and other means of telling my opinion.

I feel exactly the same way, but when I tell my opinion, you usually tell me I'm an idiot and I obviously want the city to be a sea of surface parking. 

[loftguy]

I feel exactly the same way, but when I tell my opinion, you usually tell me I'm an idiot and I obviously want the city to be a sea of surface parking. 

So, thats where all these lots came from!

[loftguy]

Well, I was just saying his rants were obnoxious. 

If obnoxious rants were banned, this forum would collapse.  Don't you think?

[zonk]

This thread is starting to get sucky.....I thought it was about our crappy mayor.  Let's  get back on topic...prediction.....Funky and the mrs. don't make it the full term.

[grovester]

It's not a scapegoat. You actually do have some good ideas, but since you're not even buying what you're selling, it's difficult to accept your words as authoritative.

disagree, this is about the future not the present

[KC-wildcat]

Well, I consider that a pretty major insult bahau. 

I agree.  And, frankly, I think that somebody whould quarantine Bahua for the weekend so that he has time to "cool off."  Haha what a joke. 

Anyway, I agree with loftguy that GRID offers very good insight, regardless of where he is from.  A lot of people on this board do.  Mean, Bahua, AKP, even though I typcially disagree with you guys on development issues, even you guys offer valuable insight, and I have no idea where you live.  I don't care where you live.  Why should I?  An idea is an idea and a solution is a solution no matter who says it or where they live.  I mean, midtownkid lives in Barcelona.  Do we just ban him from the forum? 

This whole line of thinking is completely ludicrous.  Disagree with the guy id you want.  But, don't write him - or anyone off - just because of their area code. 

[trailerkid]

So you seriously think it makes all the difference in the world if my house was at 118th and North Oak or 118th and Holmes?

How does that change a thing?

Grid,

You'll never be a "true" Kansas Citian and your opinions do not mean anything until you offer suggestions about metal plates in the road, make racist jokes to your coworkers and drink at Grinders until they close at 10:15 PM. Funk and the Squid are so much more Kansas City than you'll ever be! Never mind that much of KC North in Platte County doesn't even have sidewalks and looks more like poorly planned, StL rural sprawl than Kansas City: their opinions matter more because they live in KC proper. They are the decision makers in this region-- NOT YOU!

Thank God we have mean and bahua here to set us straight on two things: beer and who does/doesn't belong in the conversation about Kansas City.

[mean]

If obnoxious rants were banned, this forum would collapse.  Don't you think?

Indeed, but partially because then there wouldn't be anyone complaining about them.  :D

I think Funk will finish his first term, but if he doesn't make miracles there won't be a second. The first miracle would be getting his wife to go home.

Thank God we have mean and bahua here to set us straight on two things: beer and who does/doesn't belong in the conversation about Kansas City.

Thanks for being an asshole!

[trailerkid]

Lfotgyu, I'm glad you can trust his words, but I cannot. I'm not speaking in metaphors with my criticism. I really, actually, in real life believe that someone that doesn't live in a place can't be as serious about it as they claim to be, and it takes away their credibility when they talk about what needs to be done there.

So I would expect that you do not make ANY further comments about anything in the state of KS or any of the surrounding states which you have not lived. You have no credibility to talk about any of these places or offer suggestions or criticism. Please keep all of your comments relating specifically to Kansas City. Actually, your credibility should also be limited exclusively to the neighborhoods you frequent. Please do not offer any suggestions or criticisms on any parts of KC that you are a regular, acting, daily participant. These areas have actual residents with more credibility than you so please refer from making comments about them either. Thank you...

Maybe we could start an address verification process for the forum? You can only post on subjects or sub-forums where you exclusively reside? We need to homogenize the forum and exclude as many voices as possible.

[aknowledgeableperson]

Mean, Bahua, AKP, even though I typcially disagree with you guys on development issues, even you guys offer valuable insight, and I have no idea where you live.

Sometimes my name gets dragged into something and WHAM.

Anyway, GRID and I have our disagreements and sometimes I bring up the Blue Springs thing but all-in-all his heart is in the right place.  To a certain extent I have agreement with his ideas but the issue I have with them is "where does the money come from?"  The city's budget problem is that its expenses increase at a greater rate than its income.  And even with all of the recent TIF granting the city's budget problem remains.  I could go on and on about this further and other items but not at this time.

To bring this back to the Funk.  Yes, I voted for him.  My biggest disappointment with him so far is that he has done things as a Mayor that as an auditor he would be very critical of those actions.  Would he let his wife be a volunteer in his City Auditor's Office is one.  But he has only been mayor for just over one year and in one year it is very hard to accomplish much, especially with the economic conditions we are in.  He has taken some positive steps with regards to the budget and maybe getting some action on improving city services to its citizens.

With regards to being reelected, I don't think that is on his mind right now.  He has said he will not base his decisions on whether it will affect his chances of reelection and with that election almost 3 years from now a lot of water can go under a bridge in that time.  And don't forget Barnes was suppose to have a cakewalk for her reelection.  The amount of money she spent in excess of her opposition plus name recognition gave her a big advantage.  But she still had a large part of the electorate vote against her.

[KCMax]

I've read a lot of the posts on the forum and my assessment of Grid is that he spends a lot of time being informed about the issues in Kansas City and he offers reasoned opinions.

I really don't get the argument that where he sleeps alters his validity.  I've got huge opinions and observations about cities that I know intimately and my opinions are almost always valued by the people who do live in those areas.  It just seems disingenuous of you to make this an issue. 

I don't live on the Plaza.  Do I need to curtail my thoughts about the place?

I agree. GRID is informed and offers sometimes reasoned opinions. His address really shouldn't matter IMO. Many of these topics affect the metro as a whole, not just the city proper. Heck, I live in JoCo. I would bet a pretty decent minority of forum members don't actually live in KCMO.

My only complaint is that GRID's rants can be pretty belittling and insulting at times. Like he can't imagine that anyone would dare disagree with his view and if you don't, you must want Kansas City to be a backwater city. That can be pretty grating at times.

I suggest we split this conversation off, since it is about GRID, and not Mssr. Funkhouser.

[LenexatoKCMO]

The only time I get put off by Grid's location is when he bitches about other suburban parts of the city (Kansas) - rather hypocritical when one is living in and supporting one of the most far flung and anti-urban suburbs in the metro.  That said, his insight into the urban parts of the city, and more importantly urban development issues, are usually spot on and well informed and it would be a shame if he didn't contribute on these subjects.

By the way Grid, looks like you covered a lot of air miles lately - was that all one trip?

[bahua]

I'm not going to apologize for having interests and writing about them, or how I think Kansas City is a great place to pursue those interests.

I'm not going to apologize for conducting this forum in a manner in which I see fit, and in an extremely lenient, permissive, and tolerant manner, I might add.

I'm not going to apologize for calling things like I see them, without insult. I don't accept grid's words because I very deeply and fundamentally disagree with his idea of what makes a city and an economy work. The fact that he doesn't live in Kansas City just compounds my negative opinion of his words, and proves to me that he doesn't really believe what he says.

Also, if I've said this once, I've said it a hundred times: I don't consider myself some kind of pioneer or hero for living downtown. I live there because I was just following market forces that drew me to the most exciting part of the metro. I live downtown because I love it, not because I'm trying to make some kind of ideological stand. I live downtown, for real, on purpose, and not because I want people to think I'm cool.

Now I know how fashionable it is to pile up on bahua, but I'm not throwing insults around, and I'm not acting rashly. I hesitate to say this, but I'm going to echo KCPowercat's words from years ago: if you don't like what goes on on this forum, you're always free to leave.

[voltopt]

I trust most intelligent posters on this forum can differentiate their emotional response to a post from their measured, thoughtful response. 

Just give pause before jumping into this selfish, personality based conversation.

So far, so good, but there is a negativity under the surface that has no place here.  It is the drama that I'm NOT here for.  I do not know if this furthers the conversation, but in reality, this conversation has had very little relevance sinceit spiraled into a discussion of various members and administrators views and approaches on life.  The truth is that noone on this board knows much about anyone else - so instead of making it emotional and personal, we should focus on the reason we are here - Kansas City, and all of its unrealized, undervalued, scratching and clawing potential.

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[Beermo]

hmmmm.

[chrizow]

wow, this thread is beyond ridiculous!

[Maitre D]

If obnoxious rants were banned, this forum would collapse.  Don't you think?

The "obnoxious rants" quotient has fallen dramatically since early April.  Oddly enough, the same time the Cook bolted.

[chrizow]

The "obnoxious rants" quotient has fallen dramatically since early April.  Oddly enough, the same time the Cook bolted.

he has been back from time to time to register additional user names so he can vote multple times in forum polls.  pretty awesome.

[Maitre D]

he has been back from time to time to register additional user names so he can vote multple times in forum polls.  pretty awesome.

AHAHAHAH!  That is SO awesome!  I just laughed at my desk.