Westport

Discuss items in the urban core outside of Downtown as described above. Everything in the core including the east side (18th & Vine area), Plaza, Westport, Brookside, Valentine, Waldo, 39th street, & the entire midtown area.
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Re: Westport

Post by beautyfromashes » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:11 am

flyingember wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:11 am
Also notice bikes aren’t allowed at all. Bicyclists are just going to take their business elsewhere
I get the point, but I can’t imagine many people riding their bikes through Westport in the dark between midnight and 3am.

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Re: Westport

Post by earthling » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:24 am

Seems excessive if not ridiculous on the surface but it's just a few hours window late Fri/Sat night that attracts a raucous leaning party crowd to begin with. Wouldn't mind seeing P&L take more of the party and bridge/tunnel crowd as they did when first opening. Westport needs to focus on turning Westport into a neighborhood district outside those windows and if turning people off for late night weekends, probably not a bad thing.

Living in 64111, we often spend a couple weeknights in Westport (walking dog too) and some weekends but leave before the 11PM party crowd. Westport probably has the most dog friendly patios in city, and that hasn't changed. Those rules aren't going to discourage those who live in the area to avoid Westport. If it helps avoid the reputation of occasional violence, give it a shot.

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Re: Westport

Post by JLowe2018 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:17 pm

earthling wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:24 am
Seems excessive if not ridiculous on the surface but it's just a few hours window late Fri/Sat night that attracts a raucous leaning party crowd to begin with. Wouldn't mind seeing P&L take more of the party and bridge/tunnel crowd as they did when first opening. Westport needs to focus on turning Westport into a neighborhood district outside those windows and if turning people off for late night weekends, probably not a bad thing.

Living in 64111, we often spend a couple weeknights in Westport (walking dog too) and some weekends but leave before the 11PM party crowd. Westport probably has the most dog friendly patios in city, and that hasn't changed. Those rules aren't going to discourage those who live in the area to avoid Westport. If it helps avoid the reputation of occasional violence, give it a shot.
I see your point here. However, the issue is the sidewalks they are doing these searches and access control on are no longer public property and are now private property. Therefore, the owners (Westport Regional Business League) have full private property ownership rights. So while these current rules are only in effect a few late hours of the night, it is still private property all other hours of the day. They could, within their legal private property rights, do these searches at any time they wish, bar any item with or without cause, charge entry to their property if they wish, or (if taken to the fullest extremes of private property law) bar/ban any person/group from entry with or without cause.

The city council in 2017, when they approved this terrible measure, took the first step down a very slippery slope which could very well be the opening of a new Pandora’s box in Kansas City. Imagine if the owners of the Plaza came to the city asking to do the same thing around their properties? It would be very hard for the city to say no because they have now created precedent. I hope the council will reverse this action while they still can because we can not give away our public spaces and all the freedoms that come with it in the name of safety and security.

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Re: Westport

Post by KCPowercat » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:27 am

We could enact all kinds of laws that would guarantee to make people safer. Guess it's all what kind of society you want to live in. I prefer the free kind.

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Re: Westport

Post by AlbertHammond » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:26 am

flyingember wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:11 am
Also notice bikes aren’t allowed at all. Bicyclists are just going to take their business elsewhere
The hoards of 11pm-3am cyclists will be appalled.

I was in the district until 10pm on Saturday and all was well. None of these measures were in place at that time. All this fret, but it only affects people coming into the district after 11pm. Remember 'bout what your mama said of the bad things that happen when you stay out past midnight...

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Re: Westport

Post by WSPanic » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:54 am

Hand grenades - no. Hand warmers - yes.

I'm never going to remember this.

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Re: Westport

Post by rxlexi » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:04 pm

Artsy sneaker store Volume 1 is closing in Westport, moving to Crossroads.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/busines ... 49705.html

While I applaud the move downtown, it's too bad for Westport. Really needs more retail presence, fewer bars. And the concept seemed to work well there along with nearby Bunker.

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Re: Westport

Post by brewcrew1000 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:05 pm

^
So the crossroads is easier?
“My lease was up in Westport. I had an option to stay for five years. But there are too many bars and restaurants and not enough places to park,” Ji said.

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Re: Westport

Post by flyingember » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:27 pm

brewcrew1000 wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:05 pm
^
So the crossroads is easier?
“My lease was up in Westport. I had an option to stay for five years. But there are too many bars and restaurants and not enough places to park,” Ji said.
There's empty retail spaces and more opening up so there's options. It's also a more diverse retail environment.
The on street parking alone is better in the crossroads.

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Re: Westport

Post by earthling » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:21 pm

Checked out Pressed Penny W Westport. Good neighborhood refined tavern feel, above avg menu including small plates - more comfortable than last place. Subtle Hemingway influences while not attempting a 'theme restaurant'. Not a destination, rather a sedating quirky Midtown neighborhood vibe when half busy. HH til 7p. Surprised wells were only $3 but maybe we got a treat, couldn't tell. Wine by glass menu also a buck or three less than expected. Solid 64111 hangout on our list.

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