KCRag Forum

KCMax wrote: What gives?

Oddities happen when the numbers are adjusted.  As in this case the numbers were adjusted twice.  Once to adjust "for metropolitan area Consumer Price Indexes".  The second to change the 2000 numbers to adjust forinflation.

Interesting play with numbers but imo doesn't mean much.

DaveKCMO wrote: this list is not from forbes, and thus it cannot be trusted.

You can KCMax owe me a new keyboard, as I just snorted/laughed my mixed drink all over the place. 

[url=http://=http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2011/01/31/kansas-city-ranks-no-7-for-home.html]Kansas City ranks No. 7 for home makeover projects]=http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n ... -home.html]Kansas City ranks No. 7 for home makeover projects[/url]

KC is the 36th drunkest city.

St. Louis is 6th. Fresno, CA is #1.

KC ranks 5th in brain gain.  This is a Forbes list, so I wouldn't normally give this much merit, however other lists have shown the same thing over the last 15 years.  KC continues to draw young educated people.  It says KC still has a good amount of in-migration overall.

http://www.forbes.com/2011/02/10/smart- ... ide_6.html

Grad gain: 38,398
Share of 25+ Population, 2007: 2.96% (gain)
The two-state Kansas City region boasts strong population growth and net in-migration-- and for good reason. The city has one of the lowest costs of living, one of the highest personal-income growth rates and one of the healthiest real estate markets in the country. Short commute times also add to the attractiveness of the city for families. The city is the second-largest rail hub in the U.S. and is actively growing its life science and technology sectors.

http://www.bizjournals.com/mobile/kansa ... among.html

This is a Forbes list, so I wouldn't normally give this much merit, 

  I don't think it was originally produced by Forbes.  It can be found in a number of other online publications, including 'New Geography'.

9th most dangerous city according to Useless News and World Report

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2011/02/kan ... s_city.php

Stats are so easy to lie with, if this report only did rapes, anchorage would be listed as most dangerous city, if rapes were not included I am pretty sure Chicago would be top 5 every year, but since the FBI doesn't like the way chicago reports it's rapes, Chicago is never on these dangerous lists at all.

brewcrew1000 wrote: Stats are so easy to lie with, if this report only did rapes, anchorage would be listed as most dangerous city, if rapes were not included I am pretty sure Chicago would be top 5 every year, but since the FBI doesn't like the way chicago reports it's rapes, Chicago is never on these dangerous lists at all.

And I believe Vegas, for whatever reason, never participates in reporting stats. I have to imagine their crime rates are sky high (why, there's seemingly a murder every Thursday night at 9!)

Couldn't every city just not participate?

I hate rankings like that, because people take them at face value and get unnecessarily nervous. 

Several months ago, my brother was having surgery at St Luke's near the plaza.  My mom came up sign his admittance papers, so she and her husband stayed at a hotel nearby.  She called me when she got into town, we made plans to meet for dinner, and she asked what they could do in the meantime.  I suggested they wander around the plaza for awhile.

When we met up later that night, she said she was upset that I suggested they go to the plaza, because the area was 'scary'.  They had walked from their hotel through Mill Creek Park and she said they were followed and she was afraid that they were going to get jumped.  When I tried to explain to her that the area around the plaza was one of the safest in the city, she dismissed me because that's not what she's read. 

Now granted, my mom has never lived anywhere but rural areas, and is just naturally afraid of things, but I don't think she would have been as panicky if she hadn't have read negative things about crime in KC.  Heck, when I asked her why they walked instead of drove, she said she was afraid they would get carjacked.  (My suggesting of driving was only because they are elderly, she's out of shape, and he's needs oxygen on occasion.)

I've noticed that older people have a bigger fear of crime that younger people. My 78-year-old aunt lives in St. Joseph, and constantly talks about how St. Joseph has gone to hell. It makes me laugh because I've checked the crime stats in St. Joseph, and it is one of the safest places to live in Missouri, and in the USA.  They had one murder in 2010, and it was a domestic dispute.

That was self defense! She was pointing at me with some knitting needles and had a crazed look in her eyes.

Haha!  But don't forget, old ladies carry around those massive handbags that feel like they are toting around a bag of rocks. 

You do have a good point, Fang.  When I moved into my first apartment as a single person, she wanted to get me a handgun as a gift.  I told her I didn't want a gun, but she said I needed one for protection and that she was going to get one, along with a conceal and carry permit.  She was convinced that was the only way we'd be safe. 

FangKC wrote: I've noticed that older people have a bigger fear of crime that younger people. My 78-year-old aunt lives in St. Joseph, and constantly talks about how St. Joseph has gone to hell. It makes me laugh because I've checked the crime stats in St. Joseph, and it is one of the safest places to live in Missouri, and in the USA.  They had one murder in 2010, and it was a domestic dispute.

My grandmother has either FOX NEWS or the local news on all the time. Its no surprise she thinks the world has become a degenerate, crime-ridden cesspool around her.

harbinger911 wrote: Have you watched any popular music videos lately?
Every one of them displays life as a degenerate, crime-ridden, cesspool depicting an unhealthy love for money/riches, vulgarity, promiscuity, violence, masogeny(sic?), arrogance/pride & hatred for their fellow man.

yes, because rap music videos are the most complete and accurate picture of american culture and values...

harbinger911 wrote: Have you watched any popular music videos lately?
Every one of them displays life as a degenerate, crime-ridden, cesspool depicting an unhealthy love for money/riches, vulgarity, promiscuity, violence, masogeny(sic?), arrogance/pride & hatred for their fellow man.

No, I only watch science fiction, so obviously I think life is full of spaceships, time travel, and wookies.

Also - where on earth do people watch music videos anymore?

KC area a Top 10  destination for those who use U-Haul.

http://www.bizjournals.com/mobile/kansa ... oving.html

Of course there are more moving options that just Uhaul.  Would be more interesting to see the net difference of those leaving/coming in.

harbinger911 wrote: Unfortunately they depict what the (younger) popular culture is drawn toward.
They act, dress, quote, purchase, and [non]think exactly what they see.
Which is a complete and accurate disintrigration of all moral values.

The internets, check youtube for most popular vids.
There's also MTV, VH1, CMT, BET and other cesspool congloms.

AND STAY OFF HIS LAWN!