New Townhomes in west River Market? (along Wyandotte)

[moderne]

Wasn't Annie Chambers' house somewhere in this vicinity?

[FangKC]

Yes, it was located at 3rd and Wyandotte. The address was 300 Wyandotte.

Here is a photo of the front hallway. I've never seen a photo of the actual exterior of the house though.

http://www.kchistory.org/cdm4/item_view ... OX=1&REC=9

[moderne]

Thats what the RiverMarket needs now---a fancy high class whorehouse!  Wonder what ever happened to the painting(was it her?) that used to hang in Annie's Santa Fe on the Plaza.

[DaveKCMO]

Thats what the RiverMarket needs now---a fancy high class whorehouse!   Wonder what ever happened to the painting(was it her?) that used to hang in Annie's Santa Fe on the Plaza.

seems like i read something about where that is being displayed now... perhaps the national archives?

[trailerkid]

so no one has pictures of the rendering, but are still willing to bash it?

rowhomes or even urban townhomes work in tons of locations. there are 50 other vacant lots in the river market to go vertical if that's what people want.

seems like i read something about where that is being displayed now... perhaps the national archives?

that's a mirror by their main staircase.

[Midtownkid]

so no one has pictures of the rendering, but are still willing to bash it?

I guess you aren't keeping up with this topic.  I posed the renderings a few days ago.  You can also see them on El Dorado's website...

BTW, who was bashing the project?

In case you haven't seen the renderings...





I really like the design.  The roof trellises look nice and the green roofs (if those happen) are really great, too.  I do wish the parking lot in back was shown as brick like the back alleys in DC's townhouse neighborhoods.  Small back yards would be nice too, but I guess the cars are the priority.

[shinatoo]

Oh great, more cookie cutter, mass produced, cracker boxes.

[Midtownkid]

 Cookie Cutter?!  I think they are nicely designed.  The shapes and layered spaces are much more interesting than the standard "faux Tuscan" cookie cutter designs that are so popular today.  If this was the standard cookie cutter design, the world would be a more well designed place.   (Although I'll agree that the front is not exactly beautiful.  The brick and gray siding is a little cookie cutter, i guess.)

To me, this is more 'cookie cutter'

[chrizow]

they are definitely "cookie cutter."  to me cookie cutter just means that all the dwellings look the same, and these certainly fit that description.  it's not the "cookie cutter" aspect that's the problem, it's what is being repeated.  urban blocks in brooklyn or DC or chicago can look very, very much the same because they are "cookie cutter" but the advantage over a similarly cookie cutter exurban subdivision is the architecture, design/finish, the urban context, etc.  i'm sure these el dorado townhouses will be of a fairly high quality, but not at the level of a stone townhouse in NYC or something. 

[zonk]

BTW, who was bashing the project?

I was the one bashing the project.....i don't dislike the eldo townhome model, i just dislike the location for this product.  And i don't like the phasing...i mean build 2 then sell them, then build two more...etc, etc.  Not efficient from a contruction prespective.   Just my opinion.  I wish them luck.

[ColumbusParkian]

Why is this all of the sudden a discussion anyway? has there been any recent development that makes anyone think this will actually happen? i walk past this location many times a day and haven't seen anything suggesting they're about to start ripping up parking lot.

[shinatoo]

 Cookie Cutter?!  I think they are nicely designed.  The shapes and layered spaces are much more interesting than the standard "faux Tuscan" cookie cutter designs that are so popular today.  If this was the standard cookie cutter design, the world would be a more well designed place.   (Although I'll agree that the front is not exactly beautiful.  The brick and gray siding is a little cookie cutter, i guess.)

To me, this is more 'cookie cutter'

that statement began as a joke, but the more I look at it I stand by it (except for the mass produced part). There is nothing that would distinguish those units from each other than the house number. I don't know the scale yet but it does look crackerboxish. Just cause its at 5th and Dot doesn't mean it's good design.

The row houses in NY and DC at least seam to have different material type house to house.

If you lived in this project how would you tell someone which house is yours? "I live in the row houses on 5th. third one down, the one with the _________ on the front."

[Midtownkid]

Ahh, i see what you mean.  As a 'development' the units are cookie cutter to each other, yes.  I was thinking on a broader, city scale.  In that case they are not cookie cutter, as they do not match any other development.  

BTW, while there is a wide variety of townhouse styles in DC, it is not uncommon to pass an entire block of 1880s town houses that are all the exact same. (i walk around capitol hill everyday)  There is this one style of townhouse from the 1930s that especially 'cookie cutter' and found literally all over the city.

cookie cutter?




Common 1930s style

[zonk]

Why is this all of the sudden a discussion anyway? has there been any recent development that makes anyone think this will actually happen? i walk past this location many times a day and haven't seen anything suggesting they're about to start ripping up parking lot.

they started digging the foundations last week.

[ColumbusParkian]

i was JUST coming back to say "whoops!"

Throughout this entire discussion for some reason i've been thinking of Delaware street, not Wyandotte. I walked around today and saw what you were talking about.

[voltopt]

Speaking of cookie cutter...

[Gretz]

I think you need to anticipate that the backside of these townhouses will remain parking lot.  Every space that will remain will be necessary for the owners obligations to Delaware Street properties.  The rendering I saw showed townhouses along 3rd Steet and then south on Wyandotte from 3rd Street up to about 120 feet from 5th Street, (the lot next to Rose Tattoo), where the ownership changes

Btw, wasn't there a plan to turn that property into some sort of an office building with a "car-port" with parking underneath?  Did the economy destroy that plan or is it just stalled, does anyone know?  That lot is a real eye-sore.

[KCMax]

New townhouses in River Market have a green design

Developer Tom Trabon is teaming with El Dorado Architects on a modest plan to thaw a cold downtown housing market with affordable townhouses that feature a green design.

The first two of what is expected to be 18 townhomes are being built at Fourth and Wyandotte streets in the River Market on what had been a parking lot. They will range from 1,700 to 2,300 square feet, with one-bedroom units starting at $250,000 and two-bedroom units starting at $350,000.

[Greyscale]

New townhouses in River Market have a green design

That article mentions market Station, a "323-unit luxury apartment complex that is opening soon at Second and Wyandotte," apparently opening this fall. I couldn't find a thread for this development, but assume there must be one. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

[staubio]

That article mentions market Station, a "323-unit luxury apartment complex that is opening soon at Second and Wyandotte," apparently opening this fall. I couldn't find a thread for this development, but assume there must be one. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Here you are:

http://forum.kcrag.com/index.php?topic=9250.0