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WoodDraw wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:11 pm 15% design would worry me a bit too. They've already designed cheap and now they have to design towards even cheaper while protecting their profit.

And we're looking at blowing $1 million in short term interest costs just for PR reasons.

normalthings wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:22 pm

WoodDraw wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:11 pm 15% design would worry me a bit too. They've already designed cheap and now they have to design towards even cheaper while protecting their profit.

And we're looking at blowing $1 million in short term interest costs just for PR reasons.

It may not require a 15% cut to the design. The current risk involved with having only the conceptual drawings likely has caused the constructors to “round up” on pricing. I believe the idea is that the construction costs will naturally be reduced as design progress (and risk decreases).

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:05 pm When I sad I was okay with short term financing I wasn't responding just to outside loans. I've said somewhere before I'd like to see the difference in cost between interfund and outside borrowing to see what that difference is.

Is optics worth a million? Not to me but I'm not the crazy people screaming about no general funds nor do I have to be reelected.

WoodDraw wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:28 pm Sorry, my wording was really poor. I was trying to say that it worries me more that they still only appear to be at 15% design progress. Not that I'm blaming them, I enjoy getting paid for my work too.

That just seems like a low number that would need more time to figure out cost overruns, design cuts, and responsibility. Not to mention financial close.

Meanwhile, the KCI-Edgemoor team is still waiting for the FAA to approve the environmental assessment for the project. It is being reviewed by the agency's attorneys and will then have to move through four departments.

Stricker said that process is holding up further design work.

"We're about 10 or 15 percent. We finished conceptual design, and we can't move forward to schematic design until the EA is approved," he said.

Stricker added completing no more than that amount of design was the guidance the FAA provided for the EA.

the design should be 60 percent complete in July and 90 percent by the end of the year.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:46 am Heather hall just suggested the airport may be a waste because the green new deal will get rid of airline travel before the 30 years that this will be fully paid off.

She was not wearing her MAGA hat at the time.

moderne wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:57 pm Pittsburgh to build new $1.1 billion terminal with spectacular hilly roof.

kcjak wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:40 am I can't stand seeing Shields on tv news during the airport planning meeting segments - she's so anti-everything and grandstands about how the committee and council are trying to pull one over on everyone.

KCPowercat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:47 am Hasn't she been super pro airport and this developer? Seems to be my impression. Now Loar is another deal.

So now heather hall says she was being sarcastic about the green new deal. Riiiiight