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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:40 pm
by WoodDraw
DaveKCMO wrote:KC_JAYHAWK wrote:Yep, Grand St north of 12th street is a general eyesore....lol. Zero landscaping, 1970's planter pots full of nothing but dirt, busted up sidewalks, no trees, etc. I rarely walk on grand because it's just not an inviting, walkable blvd. Perplexing the city hasn't tried to make it more pedestrian friendly.
blame the parks department, who spent $100K on planning only to discover said plan would cost an astronomical figure to implement. i guess you could also blame mariner kemper, who dangled private funds in front of them all only to withdraw the offer after getting frustrated with the lack of progress.
then there's the property owners, who haven't been very good stewards of their face to the boulevard...
Maybe they could have bought some more fake flags?
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:42 pm
by DaveKCMO
IT'S GRAND BOULEVARD OF THE AMERICAS, YOU NAZI.
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Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:54 pm
by WoodDraw
DaveKCMO wrote:IT'S GRAND BOULEVARD OF THE AMERICAS, YOU NAZI.
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Sly James: Announcing, "The Grand boulevard of the world!"
*20 preschoolers start drawing in chalk, a few construction workers pee on it, a few others get hit up for money by guys just walking out of jail, and the rest are pushed away by p&l security and illegally parked cops*
"The world I say!"
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:02 pm
by KC_JAYHAWK
DaveKCMO wrote:IT'S GRAND BOULEVARD OF THE AMERICAS, YOU NAZI.
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Lol. So true.
One big project could really turn Grand around....can we get the streetcar to loop through Grand blvd Dave? It's worked wonders for the Main St corridor.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:28 pm
by DaveKCMO
from the 2011 alternatives analysis...
Re: Proposed apartment for 14th and Grand - Two Light
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:12 pm
by KCPowercat
earthling wrote:2 other renderings on KC Biz Journal...
Here is one of the "wall" concern renderings.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:38 pm
by im2kull
StrangerThings wrote:I'm not sure when the final renderings will be released. I don't see the wall argument as these buildings and the view looking north is very nicely stairstepped. Yes, if you're trying to take in the skyline from two blocks away, some buildings will be out of view but with any distance the skyline will have a very nice flow. That's just me and my opinion. Personal taste will vary.
If these buildings were in the 34+ floor range, it would a very serious issue and indeed a "wall".
So three and four light will be much shorter? That's disappointing news..
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:45 pm
by normalthings
or they are 33
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:06 pm
by TheLastGentleman
How recent is that last rendering?
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:14 pm
by moderne
I think if the facades of this building were reversed, with the current north side moved to the south, there would be less complaint about the appearance.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:46 pm
by normalthings
TheLastGentleman wrote:How recent is that last rendering?
The one just posted is Very Old.
The following is the most recent.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:02 pm
by KCPowercat
Highway Cap :drool:
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:19 pm
by kboish
Here is another rendering from the 3 light thread.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:23 pm
by kboish
Is Cordish looking to get incentives for three light?
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:27 pm
by DaveKCMO
kboish wrote:Is Cordish looking to get incentives for three light?
i bet they have some kind of guarantee from the original development agreement for all four towers.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:59 pm
by kboish
I don't think so. I remember when 2 light was approved that someone said that was the last pre-approved incentive. Cordish is still "owed" parking if/when they redevelop the midland offices. So I guess they could swap out that guarantee for something related to 3 light, but otherwise I think they are tapped out on guarantees.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:24 pm
by grovester
StrangerThings wrote:KCPowercat wrote:Highway Cap :drool:
Will happen. Goal:Within next 4-5 years.
I don't see them capping the south loop and eliminating the north one in the same time frame unless Cordish picks up the tab.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:31 pm
by KCPowercat
With Cordish in on the Loews hotel....it's more plausible.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:15 pm
by kboish
I could see Cordish somehow weaving the capping of the loop construction into a TIF request for three light. It would certainly make approval of the TIF more palatable.
Re: Two Light - 14th & Grand
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:08 pm
by flyingember
If it comes with higher taxable values, not the worst tradeofr