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Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 1:00 am
by Chris Stritzel
normalthings wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:26 pm
A revised plan ... will be submitted to add a level of parking spaces and more units.
Project will be heard at the June 15th CPC meeting
Rezoning request to be heard at July 20th Plan Commission meeting.
https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... b=meetings
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:34 pm
by normalthings
New Name: Ascend at River Market
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:39 pm
by Chris Stritzel
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:20 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Still wish 4th street wasn’t getting permanently removed. Could’ve been a good street connecting RM and Columbus Park
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:04 pm
by shinatoo
So is it pool water? Wouldn't want to swim in a pool that recirculates to the open street. People will dump all kinds of stuff in it.
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:13 pm
by Chris Stritzel
shinatoo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:04 pm
So is it pool water? Wouldn't want to swim in a pool that recirculates to the open street. People will dump all kinds of stuff in it.
I imagine it’s not actually pool water but instead designed to look that way from the street.
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:28 pm
by DaveKCMO
TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:20 pm
Still wish 4th street wasn’t getting permanently removed. Could’ve been a good street connecting RM and Columbus Park
#RestoreTheGrid
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:45 pm
by KCPowercat
TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:20 pm
Still wish 4th street wasn’t getting permanently removed. Could’ve been a good street connecting RM and Columbus Park
Even assuming 9 comes down to grade sometime in our lifetimes.that's still a large wish. 4th st is a rumor
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:36 am
by flyingember
KCPowercat wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:45 pm
TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:20 pm
Still wish 4th street wasn’t getting permanently removed. Could’ve been a good street connecting RM and Columbus Park
Even assuming 9 comes down to grade sometime in our lifetimes.that's still a large wish. 4th st is a rumor
This.
Not building 232 apartments to build a road in 20 years is a bad tradeoff.
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:03 pm
by TheLastGentleman
flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:36 amThis.
Not building 232 apartments to build a road in 20 years is a bad tradeoff.
Why is everything always presented as all or nothing? Just build on either side of the block.
Frequent streets are good urbanism!
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:14 pm
by flyingember
TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:03 pm
flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:36 amThis.
Not building 232 apartments to build a road in 20 years is a bad tradeoff.
Why is everything always presented as all or nothing? Just build on either side of the block.
Frequent streets are good urbanism!
4th st doesn’t exist for six blocks through the River Market and there’s already two buildings on top of it. Streets that stop and start over and over would be better used for space for people.
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:37 pm
by TheLastGentleman
flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:14 pm4th st doesn’t exist for six blocks through the River Market and there’s already two buildings on top of it. Streets that stop and start over and over would be better used for space for people.
Who said streets can’t be for people?
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:50 pm
by flyingember
TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:37 pm
flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:14 pm4th st doesn’t exist for six blocks through the River Market and there’s already two buildings on top of it. Streets that stop and start over and over would be better used for space for people.
Who said streets can’t be for people?
Like a building?
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:51 am
by TheLastGentleman
flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:50 pmLike a building?
What?
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:41 am
by flyingember
When there’s no chance of a usable street being constructed that isn’t just a half block city liability to repair, space for people would also be a building
I’m generally not for removing streets, but this isn’t a situation where the building is taking away usable urban space. this building will help activate two streets that exist at the expense of a hypothetical street
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:47 pm
by normalthings
The applicant shall revise the parking garage to the back of the building and bring units to the west facade facing Oak street.
design update
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:15 pm
by Critical_Mass
Hell yes. City Club & the upcoming Milhaus Freighthouse project should be the new city standard as far as requiring walk-up residential in lieu of blank parking walls (if retail isn't a good fit)
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:16 pm
by TheLastGentleman
Bring back 4th street!!!!
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:46 pm
by flyingember
Buy back 4th St you mean, the city gave most of the row away.
Re: Defeo "Tower" - 3rd & Oak
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:02 am
by Chris Stritzel