Re: New Broadway Bridge
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:55 pm
Just saw this article and wanted to share it.
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/11/07/46 ... te-to.html
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/11/07/46 ... te-to.html
DaveKCMO wrote:please don't copy/paste entire copyrighted articles. i've shortened your post for you.
flyingember wrote:Not happening. There's not enough space to add 4 lanes around the northwest side of the airport and maintain the existing roads.
Would require moving the river slightly to move the levy over
The angle to miss I-70 also would run into airport flight paths or be a crazy steep bridge.
you need 4 lanes since that's what the road is today.dnweava wrote:flyingember wrote:Not happening. There's not enough space to add 4 lanes around the northwest side of the airport and maintain the existing roads.
Would require moving the river slightly to move the levy over
The angle to miss I-70 also would run into airport flight paths or be a crazy steep bridge.
you only need 2-3 lanes since you are only routing half of the highway on that side, and you could use the current road(lou holland) path. You can easily close that section of the airport ring road as you can still access the river side hangers from the south.
You don't need four lanes. It's two in each direction now. Anything wider than two lanes would just increase capacity.flyingember wrote:you need 4 lanes since that's what the road is today.dnweava wrote:flyingember wrote:Not happening. There's not enough space to add 4 lanes around the northwest side of the airport and maintain the existing roads.
Would require moving the river slightly to move the levy over
The angle to miss I-70 also would run into airport flight paths or be a crazy steep bridge.
you only need 2-3 lanes since you are only routing half of the highway on that side, and you could use the current road(lou holland) path. You can easily close that section of the airport ring road as you can still access the river side hangers from the south.
something tells me basic airport security requirements would negate closing any segment of road around the airport.
yes, a four lane road is two lanes in each direction. (adding upwards from a one lane bridge not being wide enough to two cars)longviewmo wrote:
You don't need four lanes. It's two in each direction now. Anything wider than two lanes would just increase capacity.
A summary, as I recall:JLowe2018 wrote:Anyone go to the discussion last night? I wasn't able to go but really wanted to hear their ideas.
They assumed this was 10 years away, from what I recall.ldai_phs wrote:Was any kind of timeline given?
After two days of intensive research last month, ULI Kansas City’s 10-member Northloop Technical Assistance Panel determined that wiping out the freeway between Broadway and Charlotte Street would make a 32-acre strip of prime downtown real estate available for incremental mixed-use development or — and here’s the big bang — to lure a national corporate presence rivaling Amazon’s sprawling headquarters campus near downtown Seattle.
...the ULI panel already has come up with a financing plan for its vision of a 12,750-employee corporate campus that includes 3 million square feet of offices, 1,050 high-end apartments and 100,000 square feet of retail.
The financing plan calls for as much as $264 million of public funding, including $78 million to be derived from sale of the 32 acres. In addition, tax increment financing with a net present value of as much as $186 million could be generated by diverting new tax revenue flowing from the development for as long as 23 years.
The big-bang alternative calls for the city to spend $180 million of the public funding to create 7,200 parking stalls in two- to three-level underground parking garages that would fill the existing freeway trench.
The North Loop plan calls for maintaining east-west access in the area by improving Independence Avenue and Sixth Street after the stretch of I-70/35 is decommissioned. The streets, currently interrupted by gaps within the corridor, would be reconnected, with Sixth Street continuing as Admiral Boulevard to the east. Brain said that improvement and a new, uninterrupted stretch of Independence Avenue would fuel economic growth for Kansas City’s Northeast community.
Ron Achelpohl, director of transportation and environment for the Mid-America Regional Council, said the 58-year-old Broadway Bridge “has outlived its designed life.” Its estimated $142 million replacement tops the state’s prioritized list of highway system improvements in the Kansas City area.
Thank you for the summary.DaveKCMO wrote:http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/p ... ml?ana=twt
a few tidbits for non-subscribers:
After two days of intensive research last month, ULI Kansas City’s 10-member Northloop Technical Assistance Panel determined that wiping out the freeway between Broadway and Charlotte Street would make a 32-acre strip of prime downtown real estate available for incremental mixed-use development or — and here’s the big bang — to lure a national corporate presence rivaling Amazon’s sprawling headquarters campus near downtown Seattle....the ULI panel already has come up with a financing plan for its vision of a 12,750-employee corporate campus that includes 3 million square feet of offices, 1,050 high-end apartments and 100,000 square feet of retail.
The financing plan calls for as much as $264 million of public funding, including $78 million to be derived from sale of the 32 acres. In addition, tax increment financing with a net present value of as much as $186 million could be generated by diverting new tax revenue flowing from the development for as long as 23 years.
The big-bang alternative calls for the city to spend $180 million of the public funding to create 7,200 parking stalls in two- to three-level underground parking garages that would fill the existing freeway trench.The North Loop plan calls for maintaining east-west access in the area by improving Independence Avenue and Sixth Street after the stretch of I-70/35 is decommissioned. The streets, currently interrupted by gaps within the corridor, would be reconnected, with Sixth Street continuing as Admiral Boulevard to the east. Brain said that improvement and a new, uninterrupted stretch of Independence Avenue would fuel economic growth for Kansas City’s Northeast community.Ron Achelpohl, director of transportation and environment for the Mid-America Regional Council, said the 58-year-old Broadway Bridge “has outlived its designed life.” Its estimated $142 million replacement tops the state’s prioritized list of highway system improvements in the Kansas City area.
it already has.UrbanKC wrote:If it ever materializes beyond just research done by the ULI of Kansas City, it'd be a great thing.