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Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:00 am**

aknowledgeableperson wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:43 pm According to my son Adventureland has really fallen on hard times since Covid.

Six Flags and CF aren't doing much better, they close pretty early during the busy summer months

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:06 am**

TheLastGentleman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:50 pm IIRC World’s of Fun’s original “theme” was loosely based on Around the World in 80 Days by Jules Verne, hence the vaguely international themed ride names and the hot air balloon branding. Seems like that global premise would be an easy one to lean into, and has lots of precedent to look at

Part of their 50th Celebration next year involves them actually leaning back into that (which I really, really appreciate). Like calling your ticket a "passport" again. It's small, but it's a detail that makes it feel a little closer to the theme.

https://www.worldsoffun.com/new-in-2023 ... nniversary

Posted: **Tue May 16, 2023 7:27 pm**

The Story of Worlds of Fun: How a Kansas City Amusement Park Came to Be

https://kcyesterday.com/articles/the-st ... came-to-be

Posted: **Thu May 18, 2023 7:26 pm**

WATCH: What riding the Zambezi Zinger will look like at Words of Fun

https://www.kctv5.com/video/2023/05/18/ ... words-fun/

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 3:27 pm**

Love that the Zinger is returning!

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2023 3:30 am**

I wonder why WOF has never built any of its own hotels for guests next to the park.

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2023 10:50 am**

FangKC wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 3:30 am I wonder why WOF has never built any of its own hotels for guests next to the park.

Cause they aren't open during the winter? They do have an RV park

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2023 6:42 pm**

Even though the park is closed in winter, the hotels could stay open. There are hotels on the other side of the interstate that weren't there until decades after WOF was built.

Posted: **Sat May 27, 2023 3:42 pm**

Already enough hotels in the area plus it's hard to get people to stay all the way out at 435 & Parvin.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:54 pm**

Has anybody ridden the new Zambezi Zinger? Youtube reviews by coaster enthusiasts have been pretty poor. They all say it's small, rough, not very thrilling and not very comfortable trains. Plus another woody in a park that already had two but is lacking in many other types of coasters.

I was hoping this ride would lead to more investment. People say that they might be working on a new modern replacement for the Orient Express, but I think if they were going to do that they would have done it first since it would be a bigger investment for the park's 50 year anniversary and it's been so long since WoF had gotten a new coaster. But maybe they really are planning on something.

Always been a fan of WoF. It seems like a park that is like 2-3 rides away from being a really good park and a top tier Cedar Fair park. Hopefully this new coaster is just the beginning of a new wave of investment.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2023 3:50 pm**

I haven’t been to WoF in probably over 10 years at this point but I just remember it felt so generic. There should be more theming (The original theme was loosely Around the World in 80 Days, that should be a slam dunk for a theme park), and I think it should be built to have something occur year round. I know they tried something like Christmas caroling(?) a few years ago, and obviously there’s the Halloween celebration but it seems like it should be built to hold a german winter market or somesuch in the dead of winter. Inspiration drawn from kc history like some Electric Park theming or wide-open town aesthetics would go a long way. An international world’s fair crossed with rattletrap victorian KC would be epic.

Just dreaming…

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:11 pm**

GRID wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:54 pm Has anybody ridden the new Zambezi Zinger? Youtube reviews by coaster enthusiasts have been pretty poor. They all say it's small, rough, not very thrilling and not very comfortable trains. Plus another woody in a park that already had two but is lacking in many other types of coasters.

I was hoping this ride would lead to more investment. People say that they might be working on a new modern replacement for the Orient Express, but I think if they were going to do that they would have done it first since it would be a bigger investment for the park's 50 year anniversary and it's been so long since WoF had gotten a new coaster. But maybe they really are planning on something.

Always been a fan of WoF. It seems like a park that is like 2-3 rides away from being a really good park and a top tier Cedar Fair park. Hopefully this new coaster is just the beginning of a new wave of investment.

It's a hybrid coaster. Not a wood coaster.

Of course it's small, "rough" (Though it's not actually rough.. it just tosses you back and forth a lot.. which is a feature. Rough would be the Timberwolf experience), and fast. It's not kid friendly. I'm not sure where everyone got this idea that the new ZZ was going to be anything less than a total thrill. It's an excellent coast, that is fast, tight, windy, gives plenty of air, and has a ton of toss/roll features. The old ZZ was a total kid coaster, but this isn't. Honestly, they shouldn't have named it ZZ because folks instantly assume that means kiddie coaster, when it is in fact the exact opposite. It's a legit coaster.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:50 pm**

im2kull wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:11 pm
GRID wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:54 pm Has anybody ridden the new Zambezi Zinger? Youtube reviews by coaster enthusiasts have been pretty poor. They all say it's small, rough, not very thrilling and not very comfortable trains. Plus another woody in a park that already had two but is lacking in many other types of coasters.

I was hoping this ride would lead to more investment. People say that they might be working on a new modern replacement for the Orient Express, but I think if they were going to do that they would have done it first since it would be a bigger investment for the park's 50 year anniversary and it's been so long since WoF had gotten a new coaster. But maybe they really are planning on something.

Always been a fan of WoF. It seems like a park that is like 2-3 rides away from being a really good park and a top tier Cedar Fair park. Hopefully this new coaster is just the beginning of a new wave of investment.
It's a hybrid coaster. Not a wood coaster.

Of course it's small, "rough" (Though it's not actually rough.. it just tosses you back and forth a lot.. which is a feature. Rough would be the Timberwolf experience), and fast. It's not kid friendly. I'm not sure where everyone got this idea that the new ZZ was going to be anything less than a total thrill. It's an excellent coast, that is fast, tight, windy, gives plenty of air, and has a ton of toss/roll features. The old ZZ was a total kid coaster, but this isn't. Honestly, they shouldn't have named it ZZ because folks instantly assume that means kiddie coaster, when it is in fact the exact opposite. It's a legit coaster.

the lift hill and one turn are made from titan track, the rest is wooden. I know that it's technically a hybrid coaster but it's not a hybrid coaster... 95% or so of the ride is just a standard wooden coaster outside of the lift. Cedar Fair is awesome when they care but they don't care about WOF... I wish they would sell to SeaWorld or something.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:10 pm**

mister816 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:50 pm
im2kull wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:11 pm
GRID wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:54 pm Has anybody ridden the new Zambezi Zinger? Youtube reviews by coaster enthusiasts have been pretty poor. They all say it's small, rough, not very thrilling and not very comfortable trains. Plus another woody in a park that already had two but is lacking in many other types of coasters.

I was hoping this ride would lead to more investment. People say that they might be working on a new modern replacement for the Orient Express, but I think if they were going to do that they would have done it first since it would be a bigger investment for the park's 50 year anniversary and it's been so long since WoF had gotten a new coaster. But maybe they really are planning on something.

Always been a fan of WoF. It seems like a park that is like 2-3 rides away from being a really good park and a top tier Cedar Fair park. Hopefully this new coaster is just the beginning of a new wave of investment.
It's a hybrid coaster. Not a wood coaster.

Of course it's small, "rough" (Though it's not actually rough.. it just tosses you back and forth a lot.. which is a feature. Rough would be the Timberwolf experience), and fast. It's not kid friendly. I'm not sure where everyone got this idea that the new ZZ was going to be anything less than a total thrill. It's an excellent coast, that is fast, tight, windy, gives plenty of air, and has a ton of toss/roll features. The old ZZ was a total kid coaster, but this isn't. Honestly, they shouldn't have named it ZZ because folks instantly assume that means kiddie coaster, when it is in fact the exact opposite. It's a legit coaster.
the lift hill and one turn are made from titan track, the rest is wooden. I know that it's technically a hybrid coaster but it's not a hybrid coaster... 95% or so of the ride is just a standard wooden coaster outside of the lift. Cedar Fair is awesome when they care but they don't care about WOF... I wish they would sell to SeaWorld or something.

I thought the whole thing was running on Titan track?

Also, wasn't TW retracked to Titan track?

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:14 pm**

So even the reviews here seem a bit mixed. At least it's an additional coaster to the park. One or two more and the park will have a respectable amount of good coasters. They need to RMC Timber Wolf. They did that to Twisted Timbers at Kings Dominion here near DC and it's an amazing ride now. RMC TW and build a modern version of Orient and WoF will be jump to the top third of CF parks.

I just hope the Zambi increases attendance. It seems like attendance at WoF is the big thing keeping Cedar Fair from investing in the park. But they need to because much of the extended WoF market is getting very competitive with new parks in IA, OK etc which will take away visitors from those areas if Wof doesn't keep up and Branson has become a top tier coaster park as well.

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:29 pm**

im2kull wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:11 pm The old ZZ was a total kid coaster, but this isn't. Honestly, they shouldn't have named it ZZ because folks instantly assume that means kiddie coaster, when it is in fact the exact opposite. It's a legit coaster.

When world's of fun opened, ZZ was the premier roller coaster at the park. It was not a kid ride but it was unusual because of its seating arrangement where the forward person had to essentially sit in the lap of the person in the back. But definitely not a kiddie ride, particularly by the standards of 1973.

The Schussboomer was the other roller coaster in the park at the time of opening and while it wasn't a kid's ride, was much more benign than the ZZ. In 1976, the Screamroller was added. A thrill ride but it was a short thrill.

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:36 pm**

I wouldn't call the old ZZ a kids ride at all, but I would call it more of a family friendly ride. It was pretty intense, but not as intense at Orient or the extreme coaster or whatever it was. That seems to be the same with the new one.

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:59 pm**

The old ZZ seating would not fly now. Passengers literally had some one's bum in their crotch and their own bum on some rando's crotch. Wonder if people ever caught cooties from the ride.

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:33 pm**

im2kull wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:10 pm
mister816 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:50 pm
im2kull wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:11 pm

It's a hybrid coaster. Not a wood coaster.

Of course it's small, "rough" (Though it's not actually rough.. it just tosses you back and forth a lot.. which is a feature. Rough would be the Timberwolf experience), and fast. It's not kid friendly. I'm not sure where everyone got this idea that the new ZZ was going to be anything less than a total thrill. It's an excellent coast, that is fast, tight, windy, gives plenty of air, and has a ton of toss/roll features. The old ZZ was a total kid coaster, but this isn't. Honestly, they shouldn't have named it ZZ because folks instantly assume that means kiddie coaster, when it is in fact the exact opposite. It's a legit coaster.
the lift hill and one turn are made from titan track, the rest is wooden. I know that it's technically a hybrid coaster but it's not a hybrid coaster... 95% or so of the ride is just a standard wooden coaster outside of the lift. Cedar Fair is awesome when they care but they don't care about WOF... I wish they would sell to SeaWorld or something.
I thought the whole thing was running on Titan track?

Also, wasn't TW retracked to Titan track?

nope just the one turn that goes around the lift hill, the rest of it is just a lower quality prowler. it's mediocre at best. it would not have been built in any park that cedar fair actually cared about. and yes, the timberwolf has been retracked but not with titan track

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