The first 5 floors are garage/retail/office.geeman68 wrote:Third floor (beginning of apartments?) is starting to floor out.
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^ can't see it..
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NorthOak wrote:^ can't see it..
Argh sorry, let me try reposting. I am referencing an image from a shared library through Google photos, not sure what the deal is.
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Nice! Thanks.
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Thanks. What a huge difference that will make as you approach from the south.
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It's going to show up well from 71. I imagine it's going to tower over 670 toomissingkc wrote:Thanks. What a huge difference that will make as you approach from the south.
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And balance out the ungainly cube of the ATT building on
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I can't believe Cordish isn't begging the city to cap 670. Think about the appeal of that property if it had a park next to it instead of a highway.
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I bet they are. $200 per month across 250 units is $12 million out over 20 years, without inflation.TheBigChuckbowski wrote:I can't believe Cordish isn't begging the city to cap 670. Think about the appeal of that property if it had a park next to it instead of a highway.
The city e-tax on that is $6k annually and I bet average resident wages would jump increasing that e-tax.
Not just Two Light would have it in their interest to push for a cap.
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Considering their renderings for 1-4 Light shows the loop capped it can be inferred it is at least something they're considering supporting.flyingember wrote:I bet they are. $200 per month across 250 units is $12 million out over 20 years, without inflation.TheBigChuckbowski wrote:I can't believe Cordish isn't begging the city to cap 670. Think about the appeal of that property if it had a park next to it instead of a highway.
The city e-tax on that is $6k annually and I bet average resident wages would jump increasing that e-tax.
Not just Two Light would have it in their interest to push for a cap.
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Has there been any news on when Three Light is going to be announced? Maybe the capping would be announced when either 3 or 4 Light is announced.
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That would be great. Three Light is supposed to begin construction before Two Light is completed.ldai_phs wrote:Has there been any news on when Three Light is going to be announced? Maybe the capping would be announced when either 3 or 4 Light is announced.
For some reason I'm just not that excited about capping the south loop as I am completely eliminating the north loop.
That would be the biggest game-changer for downtown.
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and in complete wet dream world, Cordish pays for the cap.
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yeah and Cerner pays to expand the streetcar.longviewmo wrote:and in complete wet dream world, Cordish pays for the cap.
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yeah but that's likely to take longer than capping the south loop because of the logistics of decommissioning and entire trench of highway.NorthOak wrote: That would be great. Three Light is supposed to begin construction before Two Light is completed.
For some reason I'm just not that excited about capping the south loop as I am completely eliminating the north loop.
That would be the biggest game-changer for downtown.
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What if the city/MODOT gave development rights to Cordish for the block west of Baltimore and/or the block east of Grand over 670 along with a list of incentives for those buildings? Cordish just has to fill the three blocks in between with a grand park.JBmidtown wrote:yeah and Cerner pays to expand the streetcar.longviewmo wrote:and in complete wet dream world, Cordish pays for the cap.
Assuming Cordish wants to keep building, of course.
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Most of the predictions I've seen from real estate publications has KC's downtown boom losing momentum around 2020 which is probably when the 1-4 light phase is nearing completion (if demand remains high for 4 light). If that's the case I think it would be hard for Cordish to find motivation to even meet halfway with the city or MODOT on such a financially daunting project. It might be too risky for them by that point especially considering they wouldn't have any kind of financial return from a public park.TheBigChuckbowski wrote:
What if the city/MODOT gave development rights to Cordish for the block west of Baltimore and/or the block east of Grand over 670 along with a list of incentives for those buildings? Cordish just has to fill the three blocks in between with a grand park.
Assuming Cordish wants to keep building, of course.
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I would be interested in knowing what considerations lead to the conclusion of declining momentum c. 2020. Local conditions or national conditions?