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I guess I’ve just never heard of the 21c brand before this development so would never look for them.

They are gonna be screwed in 82 years.

Restored Historic Savoy Hotel and Restaurant Debuts This August

https://cityscenekc.com/restored-savoy- ... is-august/

I'm still a bit concerned about the dining room. Is all the woodwork being painted grey?

TheLastGentleman wrote:I'm still a bit concerned about the dining room. Is all the woodwork being painted grey?

God i hope not. Everyone needs to STOP painting woodwork!! We will be stripping off all that ugly grey and white paint in a few years.

And painting over redbrick too (not this project).

I would have thought preserved victorian interiors would have been a selling point for this place. Makes me worried about the building's other features, like the stained glass dome

That rendering is the bar....not the Savoy. Confirmed on here a page or two back.

So the space on the east end of the building?

KCPowercat wrote:That rendering is the bar....not the Savoy. Confirmed on here a page or two back.

Would you mind quoting? I'm skimming through previous comments and not seeing anything directly identifying it

I recall the Savoy having two dining rooms, the one with the booths, woodwork, and murals, and another that was much more plain. Back in the day the mural/Truman booth room was smoking, the plainer room was non smoking.

moderne wrote:I recall the Savoy having two dining rooms, the one with the booths, woodwork, and murals, and another that was much more plain. Back in the day the mural/Truman booth room was smoking, the plainer room was non smoking.

I recall the same--though by the time I was in there the plain room was mothballed (at least it looked it).

I really don't think there's any reason to be concerned about 21c. I've been to three of their hotels, two of which were in historic buildings, and all were executed at a very high level. These are great, fun, beautiful hotels with very good restaurants. It's going to be fantastic.

smh wrote: I really don't think there's any reason to be concerned about 21c. I've been to three of their hotels, two of which were in historic buildings, and all were executed at a very high level. These are great, fun, beautiful hotels with very good restaurants. It's going to be fantastic.

I agree. I imagine I'll go there often, and I can't say that about any other downtown hotel.

If they are using historic tax credits to renovate the hotel, they won't be allowed to do a lot of major altering of historic interiors.

Since the renderings are of a separate room like you all said, I went looking for pictures of how the rendered room used to look, since I couldn't really remember. I think I found it. What's throwing me off, though, is that the ornaments don't seem to match. Also, some of the stained glass is missing from the windows. Was it part of the artifacts that were auctioned off?

I don't know why they would remove the stained glass windows since that is a historic feature of the building. It's also part of the charm of the room.

I would think Historic Kansas City would be scrutinizing this renovation like hawks, but I haven't heard a peep out of them in the local media regarding any interior alterations. Maybe 21c Museum isn't using historic tax credits, and that is why.

I'm not a big fan of those strange ceiling fixtures in the remodel photo.

I love that this project is happening and that such a battered old building is being saved, but I just can't shake the feeling that there's something....off about the renovation. Stuff like painting a whole room grey. I know it's not the most important room in the place, but still. It will be dated as soon as it opens! Hopefully that doesn't apply to the rest of the building

They have begun the first floor glazing on the east side of the building, so far none of the original stained glass windows have been used. Looking at the rendering, it does appear that they intend to incorporate the stained glass, just not over the whole window.

IIRC the stained glass was added after the hotel portion was built.

TheLastGentleman wrote:I love that this project is happening and that such a battered old building is being saved, but I just can't shake the feeling that there's something....off about the renovation. Stuff like painting a whole room grey. I know it's not the most important room in the place, but still. It will be dated as soon as it opens! Hopefully that doesn't apply to the rest of the building

They're doing everything for a reason. I'm 100% certain someone has mocked up this room and an example bedroom suite in a warehouse and paid people to assess it. There's too much money to get it wrong

The placement of tables and type of chairs and such just scratches the surface.
Add acoustic design into the mix. Every little detail down to the shape and angle of those ceiling panels was thought out.
Then add that it will be an art gallery too. So all the decisions that make it a fancy restaurant need to make the art look good too.