Re: OFFICIAL - Loews Convention Hotel (formerly Hyatt)
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:46 am
I like the idea of a Bass pro Shop downtown. Would make a good addition for visitors.
I can't picture where a building that big would fitDarlene wrote:I like the idea of a Bass pro Shop downtown. Would make a good addition for visitors.
the northloopflyingember wrote:I can't picture where a building that big would fitDarlene wrote:I like the idea of a Bass pro Shop downtown. Would make a good addition for visitors.
Even though I have a feeling you are some sort of troll just posting stuff like this to get a reaction. All you do is post stuff that you know would get under the skin of downtown dwellers. But, I don't see how a bass pro would be an attraction. Suburban KC has two huge bass pro stores and a cabellas in three directions from downtown that all have massive parking lots. The demographic that shops at Bass Pro or Cabella's is not going to drive past those to come downtown. Generally, the demographic that shops at those stores isn't coming downtown for anything, except a Garth Brooks concert.Darlene wrote:I like the idea of a Bass pro Shop downtown. Would make a good addition for visitors.
That's the main reason I brought up gondolas in the other thread. It's a silly gimmick, yes, but people like silly gimmicks and novel landmarks. KC, despite having some excellent and unique architecture, doesn't really have a signature icon like, say the St Louis arch. There should be something where, if someone doesn't know much about the city, you can say "it's the city that has the ______" and having a reasonably good chance of recognitionGRID wrote:Honestly and this may sound extremely cheesy, but I think a large Ferris wheel somewhere downtown would be a good family attraction. Washington Square Park would be great location for a large observation wheel.
A lot of major cities have observation wheels now and many of them are much larger than anything KC will ever put up. So I don't think it would become a KC icon or anything like that. I just think it would be nice tourist attraction and something for suburban families to do. Put up a 10-15 story (again relatively small) wheel in Washington Park and feed off the energy of the streetcar/union station/crown center and bring some life to Washington Sq Park. The views would be pretty incredible.TheLastGentleman wrote:That's the main reason I brought up gondolas in the other thread. It's a silly gimmick, yes, but people like silly gimmicks and novel landmarks. KC, despite having some excellent and unique architecture, doesn't really have a signature icon like, say the St Louis arch. There should be something where, if someone doesn't know much about the city, you can say "it's the city that has the ______" and having a reasonably good chance of recognitionGRID wrote:Honestly and this may sound extremely cheesy, but I think a large Ferris wheel somewhere downtown would be a good family attraction. Washington Square Park would be great location for a large observation wheel.
While she is a troll, I think you are a bit misguided. This is Kansas City. The "Bass Pro Demographic" does come downtown. Almost all of the city falls into the demopgraphic in some way.GRID wrote:Even though I have a feeling you are some sort of troll just posting stuff like this to get a reaction. All you do is post stuff that you know would get under the skin of downtown dwellers. But, I don't see how a bass pro would be an attraction. Suburban KC has two huge bass pro stores and a cabellas in three directions from downtown that all have massive parking lots. The demographic that shops at Bass Pro or Cabella's is not going to drive past those to come downtown. Generally, the demographic that shops at those stores isn't coming downtown for anything, except a Garth Brooks concert.Darlene wrote:I like the idea of a Bass pro Shop downtown. Would make a good addition for visitors.
Honestly and this may sound extremely cheesy, but I think a large Ferris wheel somewhere downtown would be a good family attraction. Washington Square Park would be great location for a large observation wheel.
I have to say that this is something I sort of agree with you on. Alot of tourists in KC come from surrounding rural areas. Additionally, Cabela's and Bass Pro do act as their own attractions(aquarium, shooting gallery, live animals, stuffed animals, restauraunt with non standard meats, etc). In many ways each store is its own small natural history museum. When having visitors (including from overseas), I almost always take them to Cabelas or Bass Pro. They are legitematly pretty cool. I do however agree that maybe the demand is not there for one downtown due to soo many suburban locations.Darlene wrote:A lot of people that come into Kansas City are country types, whether you all want to admit it of not. They want to see stuff like that. Kansas City isn't a cosmopolitan city that attracts high end tourists.
Or we could take those funds and invest them in our existing, unique landmark that attracts from many demographics. The WW1 Memorial and Museum and Union Station.GRID wrote:A lot of major cities have observation wheels now and many of them are much larger than anything KC will ever put up. So I don't think it would become a KC icon or anything like that. I just think it would be nice tourist attraction and something for suburban families to do. Put up a 10-15 story (again relatively small) wheel in Washington Park and feed off the energy of the streetcar/union station/crown center and bring some life to Washington Sq Park. The views would be pretty incredible.TheLastGentleman wrote:That's the main reason I brought up gondolas in the other thread. It's a silly gimmick, yes, but people like silly gimmicks and novel landmarks. KC, despite having some excellent and unique architecture, doesn't really have a signature icon like, say the St Louis arch. There should be something where, if someone doesn't know much about the city, you can say "it's the city that has the ______" and having a reasonably good chance of recognitionGRID wrote:Honestly and this may sound extremely cheesy, but I think a large Ferris wheel somewhere downtown would be a good family attraction. Washington Square Park would be great location for a large observation wheel.
And most of those people never make it past Olathe or Independence. Regional tourists do drive to the area from the surrounding rural areas. The more rural type people that shop at bass pro are not going to drive past bass pro in Olathe or Indep to go to (probably a smaller store) downtown where they will have to deal with parking? Most people that visit downtown KC are there for the urban experience, not a gigantic big box fishing store. Makes no sense. KC is not OKC where they have a downtown bass pro.Darlene wrote:A lot of people that come into Kansas City are country types, whether you all want to admit it of not. They want to see stuff like that. Kansas City isn't a cosmopolitan city that attracts high end tourists.
Most wheels are privately funded I think. I just thought it would be a nice little thing to add to downtown for tourists (local and out of town tourists) and help bring some life to a park that is terribly underutilized.ldai_phs wrote:Or we could take those funds and invest them in our existing, unique landmark that attracts from many demographics. The WW1 Memorial and Museum and Union Station.GRID wrote:A lot of major cities have observation wheels now and many of them are much larger than anything KC will ever put up. So I don't think it would become a KC icon or anything like that. I just think it would be nice tourist attraction and something for suburban families to do. Put up a 10-15 story (again relatively small) wheel in Washington Park and feed off the energy of the streetcar/union station/crown center and bring some life to Washington Sq Park. The views would be pretty incredible.TheLastGentleman wrote: That's the main reason I brought up gondolas in the other thread. It's a silly gimmick, yes, but people like silly gimmicks and novel landmarks. KC, despite having some excellent and unique architecture, doesn't really have a signature icon like, say the St Louis arch. There should be something where, if someone doesn't know much about the city, you can say "it's the city that has the ______" and having a reasonably good chance of recognition
Of course they do. Why do you think we have a huge 3 story neon outline of cowboys in our downtown entertainment district.ldai_phs wrote:While she is a troll, I think you are a bit misguided. This is Kansas City. The "Bass Pro Demographic" does come downtown. Almost all of the city falls into the demopgraphic in some way.
A fine example of cordish's aesthetics being a bit too context sensitiveKCLover wrote:Why do you think we have a huge 3 story neon outline of cowboys in our downtown entertainment district
I am in both demographics. Not saying anyone thinks a downtown bass pro shop is actually a good idea, but it is possible to enjoy both urban living and phony redneck dress up games.ldai_phs wrote:While she is a troll, I think you are a bit misguided. This is Kansas City. The "Bass Pro Demographic" does come downtown. Almost all of the city falls into the demopgraphic in some way.GRID wrote:Even though I have a feeling you are some sort of troll just posting stuff like this to get a reaction. All you do is post stuff that you know would get under the skin of downtown dwellers. But, I don't see how a bass pro would be an attraction. Suburban KC has two huge bass pro stores and a cabellas in three directions from downtown that all have massive parking lots. The demographic that shops at Bass Pro or Cabella's is not going to drive past those to come downtown. Generally, the demographic that shops at those stores isn't coming downtown for anything, except a Garth Brooks concert.Darlene wrote:I like the idea of a Bass pro Shop downtown. Would make a good addition for visitors.
Honestly and this may sound extremely cheesy, but I think a large Ferris wheel somewhere downtown would be a good family attraction. Washington Square Park would be great location for a large observation wheel.
It's Cordish stereotyping of KC in hyperdrive. KC region never had a true 'cowboy' culture, which is a SW thing. There is no major country/western music that came out of KCs early years, it was ragtime to blues to jazz.TheLastGentleman wrote:A fine example of cordish's aesthetics being a bit too context sensitiveKCLover wrote:Why do you think we have a huge 3 story neon outline of cowboys in our downtown entertainment district
Why is rural/coyboy automaticaly "backwardness"? I think you are stereotyping.KCLover wrote:Of course they do. Why do you think we have a huge 3 story neon outline of cowboys in our downtown entertainment district.ldai_phs wrote:While she is a troll, I think you are a bit misguided. This is Kansas City. The "Bass Pro Demographic" does come downtown. Almost all of the city falls into the demopgraphic in some way.
Might as well embrace our backwardness.
Not to mention a lot of KC area residents are transplants of rural Kansas, Missouri, Iowa and Nebraska. Rural minded people. People that complain about progress, lack of parking, etc.