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normalthings wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:35 am

Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:16 am

normalthings wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:08 am Below ground would be ideal

That’s our intention, as the stairwell to the plaza level, and an elevator bay exist adjacent to where you could build platforms, and with O.K. Street being the access point, the entire system could function really well, especially for express services from the highway

My top suggestion would be something in North Loop where you could access east/west rail below ground. N/S Rail above on Grand. Bus lanes below. And N/S Main Streetcar on Main.

That’d be the real goal of functionality, but working with the existing infrastructure was our goal here, and hopefully generating more daily foot traffic for US and increase (even marginally) streetcar ridership with the US stops

Maybe an opportunity to revisit the concept? https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... group.html

The longtime Greyhound terminal at 1101 Troost Ave., in the Paseo West area, recently was acquired by an affiliate of Twenty Lake Holdings LLC, a real estate investment and management firm based in Stamford, Connecticut. The seller was FirstGroup plc, a British public transport provider and former owner of the Greyhound intercity bus service.

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:29 pm Maybe an opportunity to revisit the concept? https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... group.html

The longtime Greyhound terminal at 1101 Troost Ave., in the Paseo West area, recently was acquired by an affiliate of Twenty Lake Holdings LLC, a real estate investment and management firm based in Stamford, Connecticut. The seller was FirstGroup plc, a British public transport provider and former owner of the Greyhound intercity bus service.

Securitized package of Greyhound stations. It’s an investment in greyhound properties likely not to spin or develooment

Whether or not they plan to redevelop that site, at some point that would be a very attractive site to redevelop for a building with a parking garage because it's on a grade and most of the parcel is already mostly excavated.

DaveKCMO wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:29 pm Maybe an opportunity to revisit the concept? https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... group.html

The longtime Greyhound terminal at 1101 Troost Ave., in the Paseo West area, recently was acquired by an affiliate of Twenty Lake Holdings LLC, a real estate investment and management firm based in Stamford, Connecticut. The seller was FirstGroup plc, a British public transport provider and former owner of the Greyhound intercity bus service.

Lay up idea.

They've been wanting to offload their properties for a long time, including KC. Megabus showed that is basically not necessary to own real estate like that (especially when you can't afford to maintain it). There really needs to push for intermodal consolidation at the federal level...

It's not doing anyone any good where it is now.

Maybe an opportunity to revisit the concept?

bspecht wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:02 pm REOI issued "Regarding the Future of Airport to Downtown Rapid Transportation Choices in Kansas City, Missouri"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jqAE-m ... sp=sharing

Of course I concur, but will Union Station leadership?

It really wouldn't be that hard to have the bus terminal underneath the front plaza of Union Station. Buses could enter on the east side from Grand onto subterranean OK Street. Then have the buses pull to the left and sit where the car parking spots are to disembark and load. It appears there is enough room to park three or four buses at the same time. The ticket office would be in the basement.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.084673 ... ?entry=ttu

Since Union Station sold the East Yards to Blue Cross/Blue Shield, there might also be an opportunity to put a new bus terminal somewhere there. That way one could bypass Union Station leadership but still create a multi-modal transportation hub in the area.

There would need to be an elevator available to take people up to Main Street whether it be in a new structure or somehow using the BC/BS building.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0853681 ... ?entry=ttu

Amtrak and Greyhound already share some coordinated departures ("Thruway Bus Service"), but not in KC. Co-locating the intercity services would make that seamless and it's very much a best practice in place in St. Louis, DC, LA, and so on.