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He doesn't run a very big organization. Their annual budget isn't more than $5 million and nearly half that goes to salaries. They're officially a charity but that much for salaries is often describes as being a red flag for donations.
So their statewide annual budget for influencing things is less than the cost of one streetcar. That's tiny at the scale they try to work at.
So their statewide annual budget for influencing things is less than the cost of one streetcar. That's tiny at the scale they try to work at.
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Glass, Glazing and exterior curtain wall scopes have gone out to bid.
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I was looking back in the archives and it's been a over a year since the last batch of renderings were released (Aug 16th, 2018).
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Re: We are getting a new airport!!!
Yeah, we've seen little activity on that front. I was hoping to see a good quality walk through video rendering. The renderings we've seen so far give very little details.KCDowntown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:11 pm I was looking back in the archives and it's been a over a year since the last batch of renderings were released (Aug 16th, 2018).
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It’s design build, they may still not have the visual details finalized yet.mykem wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:50 pmYeah, we've seen little activity on that front. I was hoping to see a good quality walk through video rendering. The renderings we've seen so far give very little details.KCDowntown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:11 pm I was looking back in the archives and it's been a over a year since the last batch of renderings were released (Aug 16th, 2018).
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The plan was 60% designed by July, 90% by the end of the year.
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to me it looks like it's going to be a pretty standard airport terminal. Not sure how that hulking garage nearby will play out for the natural lighting inside the ticket lobby.flyingember wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:54 amIt’s design build, they may still not have the visual details finalized yet.mykem wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:50 pmYeah, we've seen little activity on that front. I was hoping to see a good quality walk through video rendering. The renderings we've seen so far give very little details.KCDowntown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:11 pm I was looking back in the archives and it's been a over a year since the last batch of renderings were released (Aug 16th, 2018).
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The plan was 60% designed by July, 90% by the end of the year.
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According to the renderings at this time, they are. Too bad the garage has to be a whole story taller than the terminal though. I also think they should of left a little more room between the two so there is room to put something there in the future like a rail station, or a new car rental facility.
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1.Between the garage and terminal is probably the worst place to put a train station.mykem wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:38 pmAccording to the renderings at this time, they are. Too bad the garage has to be a whole story taller than the terminal though. I also think they should of left a little more room between the two so there is room to put something there in the future like a rail station, or a new car rental facility.
2. A new rental center probably won’t be considered for at least another 20+ years (after terminal expansion). The parking garage in its current location is pretty much at the minimum distance it can be from the Airport Police and Airport Tower.
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Is there any chance that they take terminal b down once the new terminal opens? What's the cost of keeping it around vs. just taking it out and having it ready for expansion?
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They already announced all three terminals are coming down.
Watch the changing overlay text on the top image here
https://www.buildkci.com/future-kci/
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The ideal spot would be a two level structure east of the garage and south of the approach road. Remove parking and cut an entrance to add a dedicated path through the garage on both levels to use the same road crossings.normalthings wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:36 am
1.Between the garage and terminal is probably the worst place to put a train station.
The track can come in elevated at the end and avoid the garage access roads entirely and people come up a level for departure while arrivals is at level with ticketing.
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Making any considerations for a train that isn't coming before the new building is EOL would be kind of silly anyway.
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Re: We are getting a new airport!!!
SAVE OUR FUTURE KCI!
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Hmm, is that budgeted though as part of this project?flyingember wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:29 amThey already announced all three terminals are coming down.
Watch the changing overlay text on the top image here
https://www.buildkci.com/future-kci/
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I would have to search for where I saw the reference to be certain, but I believe so.WoodDraw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:59 pmHmm, is that budgeted though as part of this project?flyingember wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:29 amThey already announced all three terminals are coming down.
Watch the changing overlay text on the top image here
https://www.buildkci.com/future-kci/
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Re: We are getting a new airport!!!
SFO runs Airtrain between the terminals and the garage so idk why you would think that would be considered the worst place to put a station???normalthings wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:36 am1.Between the garage and terminal is probably the worst place to put a train station.mykem wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:38 pmAccording to the renderings at this time, they are. Too bad the garage has to be a whole story taller than the terminal though. I also think they should of left a little more room between the two so there is room to put something there in the future like a rail station, or a new car rental facility.
2. A new rental center probably won’t be considered for at least another 20+ years (after terminal expansion). The parking garage in its current location is pretty much at the minimum distance it can be from the Airport Police and Airport Tower.
All I'm saying is the garage is right up next to the terminal roadway and there is absolutely no room for anything to possibly expand/ put there. And I'm sure, that there are more reasons than just close walking distance for the garage's location to be where it's going to be built.
As for the car rental facility, it's nice and I've used it annualy since 2010, and love the flow of it. Just wish it was within walking distance of the terminal.
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Good point. The system doesn't need to be connected to anything else to be valuable. There's busses running all over the airport right now moving people to different destinations.mykem wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:55 pm SFO runs Airtrain between the terminals and the garage so idk why you would think that would be considered the worst place to put a station???
All I'm saying is the garage is right up next to the terminal roadway and there is absolutely no room for anything to possibly expand/ put there. And I'm sure, that there are more reasons than just close walking distance for the garage's location to be where it's going to be built.
As for the car rental facility, it's nice and I've used it annualy since 2010, and love the flow of it. Just wish it was within walking distance of the terminal.
The train stop space could be used for a system between the terminal and the car rental facility and then onto the long term lots. There's far worse spots than the airport for a maintenance facility and instead of trying to lay 20 miles of track, we start with the 2.5 miles that provide the most immediate value to the most people and use this short section as the catalyst to connect to downtown when demand grows.
Adding $1 per car per day to park at the airport could bring in $3-4 million per year.