2012-2013 Big 12 College Football

[TheBigChuckbowski]

Mark one more quality opponent off the list. That's now the 4th ranked opponent that KSU has beaten. *ISU was ranked when we beat them.

If we beat both OSU and UT, that will give KSU 6 wins over Top 25 teams. (including 2 road wins over Top 10 teams).

No team in America will have that resume at the end of the season. period.

I know a lot of things can change in 1 month. But, if KSU can run the table, I like our chances at a NC appearance.

ND has 2 road wins over Top 10 teams. OU and Michigan State
ND has beaten 4 Top 25 teams: Michigan, MSU, Stanford, OU (with a game against USC left).
ND had better wins against both common opponents: Miami and OU
Sagarin has ND's current schedule ranked 10 and KSU's 30th

Not saying that after the season, KSU won't have a slightly better resume than ND but to pound your chest seems off. Right now, ND has the more impressive resume.

Come back to us when you look at scores and where those teams are ranked now. Also, we didn't get the benefit of OU absolutely crapping their pants for 5 minutes. With 6 minutes left, K-State was up 24-13, Notre Dame was tied 13-13. It's not exactly like ND dominated and K-State squeaked out a win. And K-State beat Miami by more points so I'm not sure what your point is there.

Notre Dame has won by a touchdown or less 4 times this season (all at home, two ranked at the time, one currently ranked). K-State has won by a touchdown or less twice (both on the road, both against ranked teams, one currently ranked).

I mean, you're really trying to say ND has a better resume than K-State when they beat Purdue at home by a field goal? PURDUE? The 0-4 in the worst BCS conference this season Purdue?

[NDTeve]

You beat Miami at home and ours was neutral. You won by one more point. OU crapping their pants sounds a little subjective. I'm sure ND's schedule would look better if we had North Texas and Missouri State too.

[longviewmo]

ND has Wake Forest and Boston College. I'd say it's about even.

ND went into overtime against Stanford ... and wasn't there a lot of controversy over how that game ended? A win is still a win, I guess.

[TheBigChuckbowski]

You beat Miami at home and ours was neutral. You won by one more point. OU crapping their pants sounds a little subjective. I'm sure ND's schedule would look better if we had North Texas and Missouri State too.

Sagarin Ratings:

109 Boston College
116 North Texas
124 Wake Forest
143 Missouri State

Yep, huge difference.

[KCMax]

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[NDTeve]

You beat Miami at home and ours was neutral. You won by one more point. OU crapping their pants sounds a little subjective. I'm sure ND's schedule would look better if we had North Texas and Missouri State too.

Sagarin Ratings:

109 Boston College
116 North Texas
124 Wake Forest
143 Missouri State

Yep, huge difference.

When the schedule was made...which side was banking on playing a patsy?

[TheBigChuckbowski]

You beat Miami at home and ours was neutral. You won by one more point. OU crapping their pants sounds a little subjective. I'm sure ND's schedule would look better if we had North Texas and Missouri State too.

Sagarin Ratings:

109 Boston College
116 North Texas
124 Wake Forest
143 Missouri State

Yep, huge difference.

When the schedule was made...which side was banking on playing a patsy?

And......your point? We're talking about who has/will have a better resume. You don't get points for scheduling crappy teams that you thought would be a little less crappy.

[chaglang]

Sagarin Ratings:

109 Boston College
116 North Texas
124 Wake Forest
143 Missouri State

Looking good, ACC!

[KCPowercat]

I'd love to play ND in Miami.

[KCMax]

"The score will reflect the game score!"

Mizzou pulled the shirt after some negative attention.

[chaglang]

(posted on Twitter by @realsullysays)

[NDTeve]

I'd love to play ND in Miami.

Would be a great game. Tickets would be hard to come by!

[kcmetro]

(posted on Twitter by @realsullysays)

That's a pretty bad attempt at photoshopping a non-existant shirt.

[shinatoo]

(posted on Twitter by @realsullysays)

That's a pretty bad attempt at photoshopping a non-existant shirt.

So what? it's funny.

[KCPowercat]

I say make shirts and sell DVDs for every game....why not make money? I question people that buy them but maybe they have a family member who roots for the other team....I'm a fan of every game on DVD for purchase. In fact, K-State provides a season pass that gives fans each game on DVD...great for those who can't see the game live.

[chaglang]

(posted on Twitter by @realsullysays)

That's a pretty bad attempt at photoshopping a non-existant shirt.

I think the guy who did it is a KU fan and was mocking MU and KSU's tendency to make commemorative t-shirts.

[KCPowercat]

(posted on Twitter by @realsullysays)

That's a pretty bad attempt at photoshopping a non-existant shirt.

I think the guy who did it is a KU fan and was mocking MU and KSU's tendency to make commemorative t-shirts.

No team is immune from making these shirts...which is why it's even more stupid to make fun of anybody making them.

[chaglang]

You're wearing the commemorative t-shirt from the KSU-OU football game right now, aren't you?

[KCPowercat]

You're wearing the commemorative t-shirt from the KSU-OU football game right now, aren't you?

I can say without question I only own one "game" shirt...first Cotton bowl 1997....dating the chick selling them, long story.

[KC-wildcat]

Another ranked opponent. Another win. keep sawin wood.

Klein appeared to have a concussion. couldn't have been neck or hand injury as he didn't receive treatment for either on the sideline. they took his helmet away, too, indicating head injury.

BCS breakdown: KSU still #2 even after Oregon's marquee road win over vastly overated USC. Knock on wood, but I think conventional wisdom is that ND is out of contention if 3-4 go undefeated. Schedule is just too weak to move up in the computers in the last 3 weeks. BC (2-7) and Wake (5-4) are both awful and USC may have 4-5 losses by the time ND play them.

ESPN BCS guru Brad Edwards compares KSU and Oregon - his take: Oregon and K-State can't really move up much in the human polls. Thus, to gain ground on KSU in BCS standings, Oregon needs to gain fairly substantial ground in the computers. Oregon may be able to do it, playing ranked opponents Oregon State and Stanford, but it's going to be very close.

One important element in the computer rankings -- undefeated ND is ranked ahead of Oregon, but behind KSU, in most of the computer rankings. Thus, if ND loses a game, Oregon will climb in the computers. So, ironically, KSU needs to be rooting for ND to remain undefeated and serve as a buffer between KSU and Oregon. And, obviously, KSU needs to keep winning.