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Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:11 pm
by WoodDraw
It's definitely bizarre.

I'm sure it's frustrating for the star that a lot of the best KC reporting is coming from other places now. The athletic and plenty of specialized sites for sports, cityscene for development, and so on.

Collison is great though. Sad that McClatchy has ruined the star.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:20 pm
by grovester
The dude is way too thin skinned for a reporter.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:06 pm
by mean
Vockrodt is a tool, but I don't think it's his personal bias he's attempting to confirm so much as the ever-dwindling number of suburban subscribers who keep inconveniently dying off.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:07 pm
by chaglang
The idea of reporters aggressively defending editorials makes me very, very uncomfortable.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:16 pm
by WoodDraw
chaglang wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:07 pm The idea of reporters aggressively defending editorials makes me very, very uncomfortable.
Isn't the whole idea of an editorial board to have discussion too? Like I don't think Kevin was saying they were bad people, just that he thinks they're wrong.

Seems like going after his ethics is a low move.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:22 pm
by chaglang
Exactly. And ideally they would welcome the debate instead of bickering with people who disagree.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:36 am
by Highlander
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politic ... 86842.html

On a somewhat different theme, regarding the USDA move to KC, I suspect the federal union is guilty of a little hyperbole in this case. I once worked in the Denver office of a company that closed that office and consolidated in its Houston HQ. Practically everybody in the office initially made it known they would quit rather than move to Houston. In the end, the office closed and very few people actually quit - 90% moved to Houston. I suspect it is a bit different situation as so many more families are dual income and it's always difficult to re-establish work for the trailing spouse but I would almost bet the amount of attrition if this happens is significantly less than predicted.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:52 am
by WoodDraw
chaglang wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:22 pm Exactly. And ideally they would welcome the debate instead of bickering with people who disagree.
Just seems weird to have an editorial/opinion side and then get annoyed when people have an opinion about their opinions...

Like isn't that the whole fucking point? Or are these supposed to be edicts from up high? Whatever... :/

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:48 am
by earthling
Highlander wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:36 am https://www.kansascity.com/news/politic ... 86842.html

On a somewhat different theme, regarding the USDA move to KC, I suspect the federal union is guilty of a little hyperbole in this case. I once worked in the Denver office of a company that closed that office and consolidated in its Houston HQ. Practically everybody in the office initially made it known they would quit rather than move to Houston. In the end, the office closed and very few people actually quit - 90% moved to Houston. I suspect it is a bit different situation as so many more families are dual income and it's always difficult to re-establish work for the trailing spouse but I would almost bet the amount of attrition if this happens is significantly less than predicted.
In this case some in Congress and some in USDA think it's a political decision to move those USDA agencies so it could be a political decision to also stop the move.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:32 am
by earthling
More ammo against the USDA move to KC. It clearly will be disruptive in the short term. Already is with many who already quit...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -be-fired/

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:28 am
by flyingember
earthling wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:32 am More ammo against the USDA move to KC. It clearly will be disruptive in the short term. Already is with many who already quit...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -be-fired/
This is exactly what they want to see. One goal right now of the president and cabinet is to reduce the size of the federal government.

They can have all these people quit, move the office to somewhere cheaper and just not fill every position again. And the ones they do can be at cheaper pay rates.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:33 am
by brewcrew1000
earthling wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:32 am More ammo against the USDA move to KC. It clearly will be disruptive in the short term. Already is with many who already quit...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -be-fired/
Maybe Kansas City Area Tourism board should send these workers some kind of video to show that the place is urban, has a lot of great restaurants and has a really low cost of living. Ah, who am i kidding, they would probably mess that up and show videos of Zone Rosa, Town Center, PrairieFire and Lenexa City Center

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:36 am
by normalthings
brewcrew1000 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:33 am
earthling wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:32 am More ammo against the USDA move to KC. It clearly will be disruptive in the short term. Already is with many who already quit...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -be-fired/
Maybe Kansas City Area Tourism board should send these workers some kind of video to show that the place is urban, has a lot of great restaurants and has a really low cost of living. Ah, who am i kidding, they would probably mess that up and show videos of Zone Rosa, Town Center, PrairieFire and Lenexa City Center
VisitKC: KCMO’s tax dollars advertising Kansas.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:36 am
by beautyfromashes
brewcrew1000 wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:33 am Maybe Kansas City Area Tourism board should send these workers some kind of video to show that the place is urban, has a lot of great restaurants and has a really low cost of living. Ah, who am i kidding, they would probably mess that up and show videos of Zone Rosa, Town Center, PrairieFire and Lenexa City Center
Don’t you think some contemplating a move, especially people wanting urban neighborhoods, are already reading this board?

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:56 pm
by KCtoBrooklyn
It appears that Rau Construction is looking to move their headquarters from Overland Park to the West Bottoms at 1217 W 12th Street. They are seeking a tax abatement on building improvements. 36 Jobs averaging about $70k.

http://edckc.s3.amazonaws.com/EEZ%209Ju ... %202-A.pdf

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:52 pm
by normalthings
KCtoBrooklyn wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:56 pm It appears that Rau Construction is looking to move their headquarters from Overland Park to the West Bottoms at 1217 W 12th Street. They are seeking a tax abatement on building improvements. 36 Jobs averaging about $70k.

http://edckc.s3.amazonaws.com/EEZ%209Ju ... %202-A.pdf
That’s gonna be a no from me.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:25 am
by normalthings
kboish wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:23 pm I don't understand how a municipal government gives the federal government a tax break. It doesn't make sense. And if the city/state are spending their own money to build things out, that is even dumber and less coherent.
I believe the City/State could use an AIM to reduce the Federal Governments effective lease or parking expenses. Not sure how this works at places such as City Center Square where you already have many incentives in place.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:25 am
by normalthings
earthling wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:44 pm Next steps with USDA move from DC to KC..
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... pdate.html

Six buildings have been identified but no locations mentioned other than both sides of state line. Selection anticipated 'shortly after' July 7. Relocating Sept 30. So apparently no waiting for new construction.

KCADC reps heading to DC to help with relocation questions.. schools, housing, etc.


In this article, KCADC rep says they are 'just getting started' with efforts to attract more Fed agencies/jobs to KC given already a base of 35K Fed employees and about 100 agencies here...
https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... -usda.html
Keep those fingers crossed.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:05 pm
by earthling
USDA office search delayed?
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/mo ... yed-676541

A rep says timeline hasn't changed but political pressure and legal challenges continue.

Re: Kansas, Missouri battle over companies

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:57 pm
by earthling
The General Services Administration extended the deadline for proposals for the Agriculture Department to lease space in the Kansas City region. The space is supposed to house the new headquarters of the Economic Research Service and National Institute of Food and Agriculture. GSA’s new deadline for proposals is now August 7. USDA announced last month plans relocate employees outside of the Washington metropolitan area to Kansas City.. The original deadline was one month prior. The department wants to move employees by the end of September.
https://www.dailyyonder.com/usda-agency ... /10/32779/