OFFICIAL: The Streets at Metcalf (Metcalf South redevelopment)

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pstokely wrote:Have all those non-profits in the mall like that cat adoption place or the election office gotten eviction notices? Don't they get tax breaks for giving those places free or reduced rent? All the remaining for profits in that mall on long term or short term leases? Has the Glenwood art house gotten an eviction notice?

Zip, zero, nada.

There are no tax breaks for giving a not-for-profit a break on rent. IRS says no way Jose'.
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Fill Macy's former space with either Bloomingdales or Boston Store or Yonkers.
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mgsports wrote:Fill Macy's former space with either Bloomingdales or Boston Store or Yonkers.
tear down the Macy's space and put something new up. I've been in that store, it's a horrible space even for shoppers
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Could Walmart be interested in building there? The store further down Metcalf is not a "superstore." So we might be looking at a Mission Mall/Gateway controversy in the future...
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mistervinix wrote:Could Walmart be interested in building there? The store further down Metcalf is not a "superstore." So we might be looking at a Mission Mall/Gateway controversy in the future...
This would not surprise me one bit...
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Then would have to close the Neighborhood Markets near by. If your tearing down Macy's former space then rest of Mall to.
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mistervinix wrote:Could Walmart be interested in building there? The store further down Metcalf is not a "superstore." So we might be looking at a Mission Mall/Gateway controversy in the future...
I don't really see the Metcalf neighborhood putting up much of a fight. Mission has more of a local business, community feel to it. Wal-Mart on Metcalf would be just adding to a list of tenants along Metcalf that includes Home Depot, Red Lobster, and K-Mart.
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KCMax wrote:
mistervinix wrote:Could Walmart be interested in building there? The store further down Metcalf is not a "superstore." So we might be looking at a Mission Mall/Gateway controversy in the future...
I don't really see the Metcalf neighborhood putting up much of a fight. Mission has more of a local business, community feel to it. Wal-Mart on Metcalf would be just adding to a list of tenants along Metcalf that includes Home Depot, Red Lobster, and K-Mart.
Dont forget all the wonderful empty car dealerships.
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KCMax wrote:
mistervinix wrote:Could Walmart be interested in building there? The store further down Metcalf is not a "superstore." So we might be looking at a Mission Mall/Gateway controversy in the future...
I don't really see the Metcalf neighborhood putting up much of a fight. Mission has more of a local business, community feel to it. Wal-Mart on Metcalf would be just adding to a list of tenants along Metcalf that includes Home Depot, Red Lobster, and K-Mart.
K-Mart has been closed for weeks. And the "flash cube" office towers across the street seem to be mostly empty. So the area has a lot of "gaps", so to speak.
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mgsports posted a link to this image elsewhere, but I thought it needed to show up here.

I just puked a little in my mouth.

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I've often wondered how the existing theater could be tied into the Metcalf side of the development, given the elevation difference. There is an opportunity to do something a little different here, but what are the chances of that?
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No Sears on that Map and it's not even Lane4group Site Plan. The Wal-mart at 119th Street and Metcalf Avenue is a small Supercenter.
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Yeah, this looks like something left over from the MD days.
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...and lets not forget the $1M Vision Metcalf study and what it shows:

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Metcalf South/95 West future won't include China Star
Owen Buckley, president of Lane4 Property Group Inc., said the restaurant closed recently after its new landlords agreed to buy out China Star’s lease.

“Their lease went on and on and on,” Buckley said. “We wanted to be able to control that site, and they wanted out.”...

Mary Joyce, who attended one of the April meetings, said she and fellow residents of the nearby Nall Hills subdivision “are anxious to see what the plans are for the sites on both sides of 95th Street.”

“I think it’s funny the developer has been mum since that PR meeting,” Joyce said.

According to Buckley, he warned those who attended the April meetings that “we would be mum for a while.”
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Was in the shopping center with Micro Center (93rd and Metcalf)

it's at least 50% empty on the small storefronts. So that's three corners with poor retail coverage.

A great example that having the only type of a store in the region doesn't mean your shopping center will do well if you can't get people out of their cars.
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flyingember wrote:Was in the shopping center with Micro Center (93rd and Metcalf)

it's at least 50% empty on the small storefronts. So that's three corners with poor retail coverage.

A great example that having the only type of a store in the region doesn't mean your shopping center will do well if you can't get people out of their cars.
Yeah, that center seems to have done poorly since Marshall's and Border's closed. It will be a struggle to get it back to "robust". The flashcube office towers to the south are also struggling, if a half-empty (or more) parking lot is any indication.
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mistervinix wrote:
flyingember wrote:Was in the shopping center with Micro Center (93rd and Metcalf)

it's at least 50% empty on the small storefronts. So that's three corners with poor retail coverage.

A great example that having the only type of a store in the region doesn't mean your shopping center will do well if you can't get people out of their cars.
Yeah, that center seems to have done poorly since Marshall's and Border's closed. It will be a struggle to get it back to "robust". The flashcube office towers to the south are also struggling, if a half-empty (or more) parking lot is any indication.
the area even has some good things too that could be built on for a pedestrian focus, Metcalf has one of the single longest separated bike lanes in a commercial corridor in the region.
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The flashcube office towers to the south are also struggling, if a half-empty (or more) parking lot is any indication.
I don't think the use of all of the space is for "offices". Think quite a bit of the space is dedicated to equipment and monitoring stations.
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aknowledgeableperson wrote:
The flashcube office towers to the south are also struggling, if a half-empty (or more) parking lot is any indication.
I don't think the use of all of the space is for "offices". Think quite a bit of the space is dedicated to equipment and monitoring stations.
Given Sprint used to be in it, I bet that they still have equipment there. It would be cheaper to pay for space than to move the service.
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