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im2kull wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:36 am

Highlander wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:21 am

im2kull wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:07 am

Because "Machine gun" is a terrible description of what the person was using. IE: Inaccurate description. The kid certainly wasn't carrying around an M249 SAW or anything in that likeness. He had a much smaller weapon that folks unfamiliar with weapons typically misclassify. Ever seen that clip of the news broadcaster calling a pistol a shotgun?

I thought the guy CNN interviewed that followed the suspect said he had military experience so not necessarily unfamiliar with weapons. Here is the sound on video.
https://twitter.com/KCTV5/status/1757934660246462785 The shooting was extremely short duration for injuring 22 and killing 1. There may have been more than one gun being fired at the same time and some people could have been hit by the same bullet.

You really have to stop jumping to conclusions and making inaccurate statements if you are unfamiliar with firearms. Yes, there was somewhere between 20 and 40 shots fired. Not hard to do with a semi-auto weapon in that duration. Commonplace. If it was a "machine gun" or something that was "fully automatic".. you wouldn't even be able to distinguish the shots because it would happen so quickly. It'd be one great roar in a second or less.

Second, a pistol, PCC, AR-15 or other non-machine gun is not a machine gun. An M249 SAW is a great example of a machine gun. The weapon one perp had was an AR pistol (he actually had two, with 40 round mags.. if you want me to be specific) or PCC AR. Either way, illegal. Regardless, I saw it, and I assure you.. it wasn't a "machine gun". The looks of a gun don't determine its classification. Its construction, abilities, and purposes do. The other guns look like a few pistols. In any case it was illegal to do what these kids and this other idiot did, and I'm sure the weapons were all illegal. Especially if any were modified, had the actions adjusted illegally to allow for a true rapid fire configuration, etc. But.. surprise.. criminals don't care about laws.

Also, just because someone was "has military experience" doesn't mean they know jack about guns. Most people are very uneducated on the subject.

Lastly, I don't mean to sound like a jerk. My tolerance for misinformation is just extremely low and writing on here doesn't convey the sense of openness and education that I am trying to approach this with. So please, don't think I'm "Yelling" while you read this.

MidKC wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:23 am The US has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world. The idea that all of this is solved by prison is lazy at best.

Metro wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:54 am Same crowd that shoots at eachother at every entertainment distrct, probably has a criminal record too. KC has been way too soft on crime finally gets exposed on a national level.

brewcrew1000 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:57 am

Metro wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:54 am Same crowd that shoots at eachother at every entertainment distrct, probably has a criminal record too. KC has been way too soft on crime finally gets exposed on a national level.

They are calling this the 49th mass shooting of 2024. If you take out the gang violence/shootings into a crowd at a nightclub on a weekend and the actual statistics for a real mass shooting is incredibily rare.

Metro wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:50 am So it sounds like there was more than 2 involved?

ericwyner wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:38 am could any good guys with guns helped like the Gun Manufacturers Association (NRA) says?