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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:49 pm
by WSPanic
Q2 down 55/44 with over 60% reporting. Not looking good at all...

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:57 pm
by UrbanKC
WSPanic wrote:Q2 down 55/44 with over 60% reporting. Not looking good at all...

Meh, while Chastain's plan could help if passed, it isn't necessary. I'm more concerned about Q1.

If Q1 passes, then I hope the city's legal team can find a swift way to strike it down.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:04 pm
by grovester
http://www.lmgcorporate.com/elections/h ... races.html

Feel a little better. I was surprised how many otherwise progressive folks seemed to think Q1 was "Pro-transit".

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:07 pm
by UrbanKC
So, how does Question 1 hurt the TDD and the streetcar if the city IS actually taking it to voters? I mean the city is taking the issue to voters. Just not the entire city.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:12 pm
by grovester
That is the whole point of Q1. They don't like the TDD because it wins.

I suspect it will be deemed unconstitutional or something by council and not affect much except for bad press. I hope.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:17 pm
by KCPowercat
so how long to get this to court and rule it illegal? Cannot believe this.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:18 pm
by UrbanKC
grovester wrote:That is the whole point of Q1. They don't like the TDD because it wins.

I suspect it will be deemed unconstitutional or something by council and not affect much except for bad press. I hope.
and this vote again proves why the folks in Platte & Clay County, and probably Eastern/Southern Jackson in KCMO should not get the opportunity to vote on these issues. Suburbanites will NOT vote in favor of transit, that's just the fact of life in America.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:21 pm
by aknowledgeableperson
chingon wrote:
DaveKCMO wrote:citywide, so it will be the star or one of the local TV networks. they have systems to handle the reporting from the various election boards (four? five?).
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The KC Election Board will only announce the results from their voters. The may make an announcement when the info is received from all boards or the Star or local TV.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:22 pm
by grovester
The anti faction has done a good job of claiming that a city wide vote is more fair and less gerrymandered.

Geography will always be the enemy. KC is just too freaking big.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:23 pm
by pash
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:25 pm
by KCPowercat
3 precincts left....down 350 votes. It's over.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:26 pm
by flyingember
KCPowercat wrote:3 precincts left....down 350 votes. It's over.
Four. Add one in platte. But doesn't change things.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:28 pm
by KCPowercat

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:30 pm
by JBmidtown
Kansas City is doomed and I'm gtfo as soon as possible. We will never be able to win against the brain dead rubes. They run every aspect of this backwards "city". I'm done. DONE.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:31 pm
by KCPowercat
Don't let this dismay you...there are plenty of OTHER reasons to be dismayed! :)

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:33 pm
by pash
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Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:36 pm
by UrbanKC
JBmidtown wrote:Kansas City is doomed and I'm gtfo as soon as possible. We will never be able to win against the brain dead rubes. They run every aspect of this backwards "city". I'm done. DONE.
Meh, they'll all die off in a decade or two. Most of the idiots who are against transit tend to be in theirs 60s & 70s, still living in their fantasy-land of the "American dream", not realizing they turned the country into a nightmare. Thankfully we've got the Gen Y'ers, Gen X'ers and Millenials coming up.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:36 pm
by beautyfromashes
Shouldn't have delayed the extension vote in the first place. Have to blame the council for this and those who went along with them in order to gain some type of 'partnership'. If the extension vote would have happened at the same time as the Go Bond vote, this election wouldn't have mattered.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:38 pm
by beautyfromashes
...and we would have had a chance to get Federal funds before Trump was elected.

Re: Phase 2 streetcar to UMKC

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:39 pm
by KCPowercat
pash wrote:Well, kids, I guess we have 2.2 miles of rail transit for the next 30 years.

Probably was time for me to leave KC anyway. ...
Dave gave me hope....this may not take long to get rid of.