Schlitterbahn Waterpark and Resort

[mister816]

Build a six flags at the speedway? You are out of your mind.  A legoland there would be a far better investment than duplicating what we already have.

Worlds of Fun is fine, it's better than a lot of six flags parks, it's just not getting the attendance it deserves....because KC is not drawing regionally right now.

I don't think that you are talking about the same worlds of fun that I've been to... WOF is shit right now and unless Cedar Fair starts throwing the money that they are putting into Cedar Point into WOF, i don't know how long WOF is going to be able to last... I went to Cedar Point and they have 17 coasters..... we have 4 1/2. so if and when legoland and schlitterbahn get rolling, WOF has 6 years left....7 tops.

[cpt4599]

I don't think that you are talking about the same worlds of fun that I've been to... WOF is shit right now and unless Cedar Fair starts throwing the money that they are putting into Cedar Point into WOF, i don't know how long WOF is going to be able to last... I went to Cedar Point and they have 17 coasters..... we have 4 1/2. so if and when legoland and schlitterbahn get rolling, WOF has 6 years left....7 tops.

WOF just made their single highest investment in a ride with the new Patriot at around 15 million.  That sure sounds like a nice chunk of change being tossed over to WOF if u asked me.

[kcdcchef]

I don't think that you are talking about the same worlds of fun that I've been to... WOF is shit right now and unless Cedar Fair starts throwing the money that they are putting into Cedar Point into WOF, i don't know how long WOF is going to be able to last... I went to Cedar Point and they have 17 coasters..... we have 4 1/2. so if and when legoland and schlitterbahn get rolling, WOF has 6 years left....7 tops.

yeah and i am not sure what worlds of fun you are speaking about, the last 10 years

mamba
spinning dragons
that boomerang coaster
patriot
detenator
thunderhawk

ummm, that is over 60m in investments in 10 years.

www.worldsoffun.org  if you want to check it out, jeff and jennifer mast keep it updated regularly, and have a shitload of info about additions to the park.

not to mention, you been there this year? i can tell ya, if you have been, you must have been walking around blindfolded to have not noticed the landscaping was better the last 2 or 3 years then it has been since hunt owned it, there are ALL NEW bathrooms all over the park, they are spending a mil on the timberwolf PRESENTLY retracking the whole thing, they have new food service in the park, a la zarda's barbecue and sheridans custard, cedar point is spending a shitload of dough on that park. the 60m figure in 10 years does not include all the other shit they have done, landscape, food, retail, bathrooms, and how about halloweekends??????? they are throwing money at that like it is going out of style. it is fast becoming a top 10 theme park halloween festival.

and they inherited in 96, a BROKE ASS PARK. hunt thrilled the kc area in 73 introducing this lovely family park themed, food, costumed employees, and rides, themed around the lovely jules verne novel around the world in 80 days. kc was flabergasted, and as someone old enough to remember fairyland, and someone who liked it too, i can tell you, worlds blew fairyland out of the water ( hence fairyland going under ) but in the 23 years that passed with hunt owning worlds, they did two things for the park.........jack and shit. the only additions they made, that were worth a shit, were  the timberwolf and the fury of the nile. the rest of their additions, were shit like the plunge, wobble wheel, TOTAL SHIT. cp takes over, they put in not one, not two, not three, but four new coasters in less then 10 years, and 2 top flight thrill rides, thunderhawk and detenator.

all hunt did was keep their family faves, zinger, cotton blossom, but they enhanced the park really none in 22 years. none. cp is catching hell because the type of park hunt midwest ran was dated and tired when they took it over. noone new came to wof, they all went the way of six flags, disney, etc, they did not come to worlds. now, the park is poised to go over a mil in attendance for the first time in years, and cf has a track record for adding a lot of attractions to their parks. look at worlds in the 10 years they have had it, they took out the old falling apart rides, zinger, orient express, and replaced them with new thrill rides, and yes, spinning dragons, a family coaster. neither here nor there, they are adding shit FAST and will continue to.

we cannot ask, nor expect, cf to make worlds of fun into a 17 roller coaster park overnite. i personally, am happy with 5, and will be happier with 6 and 7 and so on. and they will do it. GIVE IT TIME, they are currently seeing how the metro and region is reacting to a 18m project, ( patriot ) and if the public reacts to the tune of a 200k spike in attendance, which, they are on pace to, then, you will continue to see expanding. but, no park cf owns and operates put up dozens of coasters in one full swoop. they do it gradually. and they have done more in 9 years then hunt did in 23. i think 2007 will be a real measuring stick............do they keep adding, or do they sit back and relax? because, if they do the later, that would be bad as an industry standard, as, the other parks do not do that.

shlitterbahn will not kill oceans of fun, it has sat there kind of sort of open for 20 years now, they slowly expand it every few years adding this and that, i think shlitterbahn will do little more then pressure them to add a little more, but, remember, oof will still be outdoors, and, to some people, that still matters, and i would be shocked to see oof go anywhere. attendance may go down, but, oof costs cf peanuts to operate, the money is ALL tied up in worlds, which, in turn, kicks the profits back.

Worlds of Fun is fine, it's better than a lot of six flags parks, it's just not getting the attendance it deserves....because KC is not drawing regionally right now.

grid, we have discussed your useage of common sense in the forum. it is out of place.

[im2kull]

my only complaint is WOF needs to actually have their original theme back...if they keep the WOF name...
Cedar Fair has torn up the parks theme-ing.  Other than that, compared to the other parks ive been to, WOF is middle of the line on coasters, and still near the top on design...layout...landscaping...and overall pleasure....although they need to fix some things very quickly....the hot asphalt...the uninviting and more often torn up and looked beyond landscaping...the rides maintence...the whole WOF theme...all the water in the park needs something done to it...maybe cleaned or at least colored blue...bring back the parking lot trolleys...and add a few new paths to actually make the park all interconnected again...parts of it just kinda have dead ends...

[mister816]

chef, you are so long winded... I don't even wanna quote you lol. I understand what you are saying, but you don't understand what I'm saying.... yes they have added a few new rides to catch a small amount of attention, but they have added nothing innovative... when you look at CP and see rides like the wicked twister and the 425' top thrill dragster, then go to islands of adventure and see rides like the hulk and dueling dragon, WOF can't compare.  Hell, I was at CP and I saw a construction site there, and a girl who works there told me that they are adding a 500'+ coaster...

WOF can add new rides as much as the want but until they push the envelope, I don't see people outside of KC taking a 4 hr drive to go there.  Locals will not support WOF, OOF, Schlitterbahn, and Legoland. so how can it possibly survive?

there are only a few theme parks that people outside of the cities where they are located care about, and WOF will not be one of them till we get a new tallest or fastest. because rides like the patriot are carbon copies of what you can get in any park in america.  Would you make even a 2 hr drive to ride that?

[jj116533]

actually i think that we could support all of them except for oceans of fun, but that really isnt a bad thing becuase then WOf could build more rides there and actually have a descent park. That is just my opinion though.

[GRID]

mister816, I agree with you to a point, WOF does not have any "top" coasters anymore.  At one time they were ahead of the coaster curve and had some of the top coasters in the country, now they get smaller versions of coasters that have been out for several years.

But the park is far from "shit".  Ever been to six flags in Denver?  The location is great, but being landlocked has really kept it down.

The six flags in Houston is now a dirt patch.  A huge city like that and now they don't even have a themepark.

Six Flags in StL is comparable to WoF, always has been.

You can't compare WoF to CP, come on.

WoF really needs to get its attendance back up to 1.5 million plus before CP is going to do another 20 million dollar ride.

Like I said, KC's tourism draw has gone down the tubes over the past decade or so.

A new downtown, Schlitterbahn, and other attractions will help us bounce back, but I find no reason to give up on WoF or duplicate it.

And Legoland is not coming to KC, mark my words .  Unless Kansas builds it for them and even then, it's a longshot.

So what we have Schlitterbahn?, in ten years those or something similar will be in Dallas, Chicago, StL etc.  Just watch....

Legoland will want to be closer to more people.  They are between LA and SD in Ca and right off the 5 which carries more traffic in its rural stretches than 35 does in JoCo and they don't draw 1 million people.  It's a niche thempark.

I see them going up between Chicago and Milwaukee or down in somewhere in the Dallas, Austin, SA Market, but not KC, sorry, just don't see it happening.

[MidWestSider]

oof will still be outdoors, and, to some people, that still matters

I thought only a tiny portion of Schlitter was indoors, no?

As far as CP and WOF..  What do you guys expect?  Notice the name of the company is "CEDAR" Fair, Cedar point is their pride and joy.  The other parks they run in KC, MN, CA, PA and who knows where else are just business investments that further funds the outrageous overspending they do in Ohio. 

I doubt we'll ever see a truly authentic and innovative ride at WOF again, just prefabbed peanuts.

[BVC]

And Legoland is not coming to KC, mark my words .  

Just like Schlitterbahn was not going to happen, right?

[KCMax]

WOF can add new rides as much as the want but until they push the envelope, I don't see people outside of KC taking a 4 hr drive to go there. 

I agree. Until I hear that one of their rides has killed a few kids, I have absolutely no desire to go to WOF.

[LenexatoKCMO]

I do have to agree with the poster who was complaining about the sketchy crowd WOF gets these days.  The couple of times I was out there this year, I was shocked that they were able to convince so many people to give up all of that money that they could be spending on meth. 

[GRID]

I do have to agree with the poster who was complaining about the sketchy crowd WOF gets these days.  The couple of times I was out there this year, I was shocked that they were able to convince so many people to give up all of that money that they could be spending on meth. 

And you probably think Village West is different...

WoF is not that bad, I spent a whole day there and there was a pretty wide cross section of people.  You know, more than the south JoCo and the downtown condo crowd.

[mister816]

I agree. Until I hear that one of their rides has killed a few kids, I have absolutely no desire to go to WOF.

lol, no those dumbass kids were doing shit that they shouldn't have been doing.... THEY WERE TRADING SEATS AT THE TOP OF THE LIFT HILL...  if you unbuckle the seatbelt and stand up on the rollercoaster, you can't seriously blame the park.

[im2kull]

WOF can add new rides as much as the want but until they push the envelope, I don't see people outside of KC taking a 4 hr drive to go there.  Locals will not support WOF, OOF, Schlitterbahn, and Legoland. so how can it possibly survive?

there are only a few theme parks that people outside of the cities where they are located care about, and WOF will not be one of them till we get a new tallest or fastest. because rides like the patriot are carbon copies of what you can get in any park in america.  Would you make even a 2 hr drive to ride that?

FYI: WOF used to be one of the most looked after and destinated parks in the country...

Yes...it really was
*take a moment to breathe and try and imagine this*
WOF used to be revolutionary...they had everything...the image...the business...the rides...the newest and best thrills...and the impeccable themed park idea (the worlds)...

If Cedar Fair gets their act together then WOF could be as big as a 6F magic mountain or Busch...

P.S....WOF had the worlds first stand up coaster...and that was the early 80's

[Beltonhawk]

I'll try to bring this back on topic.

There's now a wiki page for the Schlit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlitterb ... nsas_City)

[trailerkid]

Nothing better than a Missouri vs. Kansas suburbadroid battle.

"My highway is wider than yours"

"We have better shopping"

"We have more McMansions"

"Well, you also have more hick suburbs"

"Nooo...you do!"

[Tosspot]

Nothing better than a Missouri vs. Kansas suburbadroid battle.

"My highway is wider than yours"

"We have better shopping"

"We have more McMansions"

"Well, you also have more hick suburbs"

"Nooo...you do!"

I nominate this for Post of the Month.

[MrJayhawk]

Worlds of Fun is fine, it's better than a lot of six flags parks,

Thinking like this gets us a "remodeled" Kemper arena, and a "remodeled" Truman Sports Complex.

KC residents seem to have a real inferiority complex at times.  When something is suggested for improvements, the 1st reaction is a defensive one "Well, it's just fine, it's better than A, B and C!!" rather than "It can always be made better."

Why do we get defensive and feel the desperate need to defend everything KC? Why can't we admit that some things are lacking and demand more of KC and those elected to represent KC's interests?

[GRID]

Thinking like this gets us a "remodeled" Kemper arena, and a "remodeled" Truman Sports Complex.

KC residents seem to have a real inferiority complex at times.  When something is suggested for improvements, the 1st reaction is a defensive one "Well, it's just fine, it's better than A, B and C!!" rather than "It can always be made better."

Why do we get defensive and feel the desperate need to defend everything KC? Why can't we admit that some things are lacking and demand more of KC and those elected to represent KC's interests?

Believe me, I think we all do our fair share, especially me , of pointing out our weaknesses, I just honestly think that WoF is a decent amusement park.  I think it could use a couple of "new" rides and maybe a new super coaster without removing the ones they have and it would stand up to most large amusement parks around the nation, outside of the big established parks that draw several million a year.

[kcdcchef]

Believe me, I think we all do our fair share, especially me , of pointing out our weaknesses, I just honestly think that WoF is a decent amusement park.  I think it could use a couple of "new" rides and maybe a new super coaster without removing the ones they have and it would stand up to most large amusement parks around the nation, outside of the big established parks that draw several million a year.

nope. sorry. not good enough. most posters want it bulldozed, rebuilt by the speedway, as a carbon copy of the flagship cedar point.