1822 Main Tower (formerly renovation)

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Just couldn't find the heart to save the old bank facade, would have been easy to incorporate it into this where the (fake) ivy is shown.
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moderne wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:53 am Just couldn't find the heart to save the old bank facade, would have been easy to incorporate it into this where the (fake?) ivy is shown.
I heard from one of the architects that Copaken “doesn’t have the budget” to do the Ivy or the facade. They’re going really cheap with it.
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TheUrbanRoo wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:58 amThey’re going really cheap with it.
That’s not great
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I’ll be honest, based on the drawings this is pretty ugly
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When can we get away from this ugly aluminum siding?!? It’s almost worst than stucco which looks to be the other material. It does take over a really prominent and rough site, so that’s great. Focus on good streetfront connection and more and more people.
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Does it feel like this building has very few windows onto the street?
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smh wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:55 am Does it feel like this building has very few windows onto the street?
Elevator shaft is up against the street side, so it naturally creates a big blank section.

At least they call out a desire for murals on the sides with exposed concrete from the garage.
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KC_Ari wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:10 pm
smh wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:55 am Does it feel like this building has very few windows onto the street?
Elevator shaft is up against the street side, so it naturally creates a big blank section.

At least they call out a desire for murals on the sides with exposed concrete from the garage.
Seems like an odd spot and results in an odd street frontage (imho). Assume they are trying to maximize the double-loaded corridor.
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Why does every building need glazing
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langosta wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:44 pm Why does every building need glazing
:lol: :lol:
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Yes, take the windows out and this will be just another self storage.
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moderne wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:52 pm Yes, take the windows out and this will be just another self storage.
Except for the ground level, which is doing everything right IMO -- canopy, lighting, street trees, transparency. Most of the time the Main Street facade will be blocked by the 10-story Corrigan and 14-story Reverb if you're looking at it from anywhere other than Main Street. The most visible bits (for now) will be the south, west, and north facades.
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Just Add fake windows where the elevator shaft is.
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Pros: Density, alley parking access.
Cons: Aluminum facade elements, N/S window alignments convey a confidence that surrounding parcels aren't close to development.
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moderne wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:53 am Just couldn't find the heart to save the old bank facade, would have been easy to incorporate it into this where the (fake) ivy is shown.
Example of facade saving in Birmingham, UK,

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.4818779 ... ?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.4821052 ... ?entry=ttu

and across the street,

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.4819282 ... ?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Birmi ... ?entry=ttu

and a former church in Boston.

https://www.ceimaterials.com/news/Beaut ... _AE30.html
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Looking to break ground by end of year.

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... ments.html
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Plans for a tower crane?
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Before vs rendered view.
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I like the brick portions at the bottom. I hate the upper floors. That cladding is going to look cheap. The window pattern is bothering me for some reason, too. Doesn't look thoughtful, looks slapped together. I wish they'd splurge for terracotta or some other more interesting material on the upper floors.
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Midtownkid wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:14 am I like the brick portions at the bottom. I hate the upper floors. That cladding is going to look cheap. The window pattern is bothering me for some reason, too. Doesn't look thoughtful, looks slapped together. I wish they'd splurge for terracotta or some other more interesting material on the upper floors.
Problem with the window pattern is that the elevator core is up against Main St, which makes for an odd looking building.

I'm also curious what the sidewalk width is going to be through here. Feeling a little narrow in the pedestrian heavy zone.
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