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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Arterra, Opera House Lofts, and 423 Delaware garages are on the alley. The upper levels of Richard and Conover Lofts have alley access.
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
I bet the brownish colorTheUrbanRoo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:07 pm So do we know if they’re going with the blue or the brown/orange look?
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Arterra was also Copaken, so that gives me hope that this one would also use the alley for access.
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Pretty sure the all white one is just a massing model not meant to show materialsChris Stritzel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:12 pmI bet the brownish colorTheUrbanRoo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:07 pm So do we know if they’re going with the blue or the brown/orange look?
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Will ultimately go through City Planning Commission I think and then Council. Planning dept will do nothing.trailerkid wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:14 pmWho do folks need to contact in the City to request the structure isn't car-oriented on Main (i.e. no vehicle entrances/exiting, active ground floor)?
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I'm pretty sure it's all alley access for cars. I would remember if it wasn't.
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Alley access is the code requirement for DX zoning in this situation.
88-338-01-E. DRIVEWAYS AND VEHICLE ACCESS
1. Driveways and vehicle access, when provided, must come from an alley or side street if either is present.
https://library.municode.com/mo/kansas_ ... 01BUSIDEST
88-338-01-E. DRIVEWAYS AND VEHICLE ACCESS
1. Driveways and vehicle access, when provided, must come from an alley or side street if either is present.
https://library.municode.com/mo/kansas_ ... 01BUSIDEST
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a) codes are meant to be broken as we've seen over and over but good sign
b) great reason why we should quit abandoning alleys
b) great reason why we should quit abandoning alleys
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Sure, but Rag/development advocates should read through the code, know it well & use it strongly in pushback.
The current Council seems to just make things up when it comes to their views on development, meanwhile there are plenty of codes + ratified goals that should be the actual guiding standards.
From watching development battles in other cities – being data-oriented (esp local facts) is best case to make + convinces more looking on from the outside.
The current Council seems to just make things up when it comes to their views on development, meanwhile there are plenty of codes + ratified goals that should be the actual guiding standards.
From watching development battles in other cities – being data-oriented (esp local facts) is best case to make + convinces more looking on from the outside.
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Couldn't this work? Save the little historic facade!
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
I'm with you Midtown, I'd save the facade and make it the entrance to the new building.
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would love that.
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Seems like a no-brainer. It would be nice to replicate that same terra cotta across the first couple of floors and blend it in, but saving it as-is would surely be easy to incorporate into the plan.
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Development Assistance Team applied for on Compass. If I recall correctly, Generator Studio's office on Baltimore has a simple white model of this building in their window. Looks a little different from the plans we've seen, but hard to tell without color. I guess we'll find out.
https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... d17fde3a3e
https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... d17fde3a3e
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Development Plan applied for. Scope calls for 118 apartments (+6 from before) and 93 parking spaces over a total of 13-stories. The building was also redesigned and, in my view, looks a lot better.
It's set to go before the Planning Commission on September 5th.
https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... 47d1ae9e10
It's set to go before the Planning Commission on September 5th.
https://compasskc.kcmo.org/EnerGov_Prod ... 47d1ae9e10
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Looks good! I appreciate the limited amenity buildings and the removal of some surface parking. When I moved downtown, I specifically looked for buildings that would not attempt to justify higher rents with pool, community kitchens, etc. Living downtown is the amenity.
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Yep I’ll definitely take it. Hope they can break ground here ASAP. Get another one up for the World Cup.
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Re: 1822 Main Redevlopment
Yes. It's amazing to me that Midland Lofts has been described as affordable housing but yet there are amenities you don't find in just an ordinary apartment building. If you want to keep rents low, you don't need in-unit washers and dryers, conference rooms, business centers, co-working spaces, fitness centers, meditation rooms, entertainment kitchens, fireplaces and coffee bars. Provide a common laundry room and A/C. That's enough for people seeking basic living who want affordability.KC_Ari wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:14 pm Looks good! I appreciate the limited amenity buildings and the remove of some surface parking. When I moved downtown, I specifically looked for buildings that would not attempt to justify higher rents with pool, community kitchens, etc. Living downtown is the amenity.
https://www.startlandnews.com/2023/07/midland-lofts/