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Re: Three Light
Part of being transparent about a project is having egg on your face when things don't go as planned with your timeline. Most of the delays on 2L were minimal but the delays on 3L were extensive, even if not all on the developer.
I do think 3 brand new residential towers going up within 8 years is insanely fast for KC, especially considering an average of 18-24 months of construction time each.
I do think 3 brand new residential towers going up within 8 years is insanely fast for KC, especially considering an average of 18-24 months of construction time each.
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well if the maintain the level of lighting they have now as "2 feet from the sun bright" I assume you could see them just fine
But I do hope they can be reproduced in some fashion so we can continue to enjoy them
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I hope they can be preserved in some way to the public, but glad to hear they will be a part of the buildingDColeKC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:48 pmNot that it's comparable to fully replacing the murals, but it is cool they don't just paint over these and they're exposed on some interior walls. 2L did a great job replacing them and the exterior of 3L will have some great artistic qualities that tie back into the KC music history.
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I won't try to speak on behalf of cordish, but it's fairly normal for developers to reach a certain level of occupancy before continuing development. Especially true with power and light where they're building in one area and effectively only competing with themselves.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:02 pmFor a city like Denver, would that be considered fast as well? Or normal?
Even more so now that they control the area across Truman now.
Cordish has no obligation to tell us their private corporate strategy, but we also don't have to believe them anymore when they say four light will start soon. History says this is unlikely.
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Rumos were that Cordish is gonna start 4 Light before 3 Light is doneWoodDraw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:05 pmI won't try to speak on behalf of cordish, but it's fairly normal for developers to reach a certain level of occupancy before continuing development. Especially true with power and light where they're building in one area and effectively only competing with themselves.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:02 pmFor a city like Denver, would that be considered fast as well? Or normal?
Even more so now that they control the area across Truman now.
Cordish has no obligation to tell us their private corporate strategy, but we also don't have to believe them anymore when they say four light will start soon. History says this is unlikely.
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That's been the rumor for every light building and it's never happened.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:50 pmRumos were that Cordish is gonna start 4 Light before 3 Light is doneWoodDraw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:05 pmI won't try to speak on behalf of cordish, but it's fairly normal for developers to reach a certain level of occupancy before continuing development. Especially true with power and light where they're building in one area and effectively only competing with themselves.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:02 pm
For a city like Denver, would that be considered fast as well? Or normal?
Even more so now that they control the area across Truman now.
Cordish has no obligation to tell us their private corporate strategy, but we also don't have to believe them anymore when they say four light will start soon. History says this is unlikely.
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I'd be very surprised if they broke ground on 4 before 3 opens. I haven't seen or heard of any updated designs for 4L or even it's official location. Not to mention, the Midland project is a high priority that's nearing the end of the budget process. That needs to be done or well underway before 4L starts.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:50 pmRumos were that Cordish is gonna start 4 Light before 3 Light is doneWoodDraw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:05 pmI won't try to speak on behalf of cordish, but it's fairly normal for developers to reach a certain level of occupancy before continuing development. Especially true with power and light where they're building in one area and effectively only competing with themselves.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:02 pm
For a city like Denver, would that be considered fast as well? Or normal?
Even more so now that they control the area across Truman now.
Cordish has no obligation to tell us their private corporate strategy, but we also don't have to believe them anymore when they say four light will start soon. History says this is unlikely.
Also, as mentioned above it depends on how quickly 3L leases up. If it is slow to lease or doesn't hit full occupancy, 4L will be put on the back burner.
KC compared to Denver or Nashville is apples to oranges. Those cities have been blowing up at a record pace for awhile. I was saying by KC standards.
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But if you're saying "extremely fast for KC standards" is extremely fast here the equivalent of normal pace for Denver? Because if so, then that would mean we'd be on a normal pace for downtown development compared to those cities.DColeKC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:29 pmI'd be very surprised if they broke ground on 4 before 3 opens. I haven't seen or heard of any updated designs for 4L or even it's official location. Not to mention, the Midland project is a high priority that's nearing the end of the budget process. That needs to be done or well underway before 4L starts.AlkaliAxel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:50 pmRumos were that Cordish is gonna start 4 Light before 3 Light is doneWoodDraw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:05 pm
I won't try to speak on behalf of cordish, but it's fairly normal for developers to reach a certain level of occupancy before continuing development. Especially true with power and light where they're building in one area and effectively only competing with themselves.
Even more so now that they control the area across Truman now.
Cordish has no obligation to tell us their private corporate strategy, but we also don't have to believe them anymore when they say four light will start soon. History says this is unlikely.
Also, as mentioned above it depends on how quickly 3L leases up. If it is slow to lease or doesn't hit full occupancy, 4L will be put on the back burner.
KC compared to Denver or Nashville is apples to oranges. Those cities have been blowing up at a record pace for awhile. I was saying by KC standards.
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It is very fast for KC historically. The View, formerly Vista Del Rio, was to have a twin. The Manhattan and its twin formerly River Hills were to have one or two more buildings. These never were built out. Crown Center was to have several more San Francisco towers, again never realized. Residential tower at Sailors project became suburban low rise. The many versions of Stan Durwoods Crosstown had residential towers planned. I am sure there are more unbuilt KC residential towers?
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Re: Three Light
Could someone please get us an updated picture or two? Thanks in advance!!!
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Thank you so much, LastGentelman!!!!!
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Re: Three Light
Every time I walk by this site I laugh about how they were able to accommodate pedestrians on Main Street. Just shows you how other projects lack any creativity when they say it can't be done.
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Incentives for the project are on the council docket. I honestly think they made a mistake and meant to have posted the FSL HQ instead? Almost all notes are for 3 Light except for mentioning FSL as backing the debt.
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Yeah i thought that was weird too. What is FSL?
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