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Kansas City is bidding on RNC 2023 the mayor's office confirmed today. KC delegation will be in DC tomorrow meeting with RNC. Mayor was in DC last week, I wonder if he met with them then.

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/so ... convention
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What’s the average economic impact for an event of that scale?
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Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:13 pm What’s the average economic impact for an event of that scale?
Cleveland saw 50,000 visitors and a 90% average occupancy for the region. 100% for downtown CLE. Hotel ADR more than doubled.

$40 million in direct spending occured by the visitors. Federal government spend $50 on security with 50% in local wages. $110 million total direct spending.Total economic impact was around $190 million.
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Wouldn't they select a purple/questionable state in the end? MO is pretty much a GOP lock at this point, even if someone nuttier than Trump nominated. Georgia is a major GOP concern right now, and AZ.
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earthling wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:28 pm Wouldn't they select a purple/questionable state in the end? MO is pretty much a GOP lock at this point, even if someone nuttier than Trump nominated. Georgia is a major GOP concern right now, and AZ.
Probably concerned about KS with a blue district directly adjacent to KC, and a blue gov.
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normalthings wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:23 pm
Anthony_Hugo98 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:13 pm What’s the average economic impact for an event of that scale?
Cleveland saw 50,000 visitors and a 90% average occupancy for the region. 100% for downtown CLE. Hotel ADR more than doubled.

$40 million in direct spending occured by the visitors. Federal government spend $50 on security with 50% in local wages. $110 million total direct spending.Total economic impact was around $190 million.
Honestly not a bad draw, occupancy like that would definitely help give a jolt to the hospitality downtown for sure
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Electoral votes (maybe before 2020 census, doesn't change point)
KS 6
GA 16
AZ 11
PA 20
OH 18
VA 13
NC 15
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Actually the most likely one is Dallas. They were the runner-up in 2016 and by 2024 Texas is a true battleground and far too important to lose.
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Is the RNC site selection before/after 2022 election? Would think that outcome will be a factor. And TX could come into play if losing ground.
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Goonies wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:29 pm I can already hear the cry babies in Volker, Hyde Park, etc "Dont welcome hate to KC!!!"
That's a given gonna happen lol
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^And hard righties will make comparable comments in DNC candidate cities, not worth bringing up.
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KC was a finalist in 2016, made the biggest changes request, and so should be a top contender in 2024.

2016 selections were made in 2014 iirc.
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https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/a ... 13256.html
2016 bid-
But hard work and dedication may have been less important than physical reality, some local officials said. Convention delegates faced long rides on buses to reach the sparkling downtown arena — a setup that proved disastrous in Tampa, Fla., in 2012, when some conventioneers sat for hours waiting for post-session transportation. Indeed, the GOP decision is expected to increase public discussion of a convention hotel downtown, a project on Kansas City’s to-do list for years.
The convention hotel was announced less than a year later

These big events want it to be easy to get to the event.
Transportation and not having hotel rooms crazy far away are important.
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Goonies wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:55 pm The draft, RNC Convention, and the World Cup? I know Lucas has very little to do with any of that but I'm sure those things will be in the average voters heads next time mayoral election.
Its funny because all would have been because of his predecessors work. Lucas hasn't done much to promote the changes needed to attract more of these. If anything, slowed progress. Grateful he at least approved an attempt to get RNC.
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normalthings wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:04 am
Goonies wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:55 pm The draft, RNC Convention, and the World Cup? I know Lucas has very little to do with any of that but I'm sure those things will be in the average voters heads next time mayoral election.
Its funny because all would have been because of his predecessors work. Lucas hasn't done much to promote the changes needed to attract more of these. If anything, slowed progress. Grateful he at least approved an attempt to get RNC.
Yeah, didn’t he basically gut the EDCs budget as soon as he got into office? Hard to nail down national business when you don’t have the organization to do it
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earthling wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:28 pm Wouldn't they select a purple/questionable state in the end? MO is pretty much a GOP lock at this point, even if someone nuttier than Trump nominated. Georgia is a major GOP concern right now, and AZ.
Does the convention actually have any effect on a state’s vote?

2004, New York goes for Kerry, not Bush
2008, Minnesota goes for Obama, not McCain
2012, NC and FL voted opposite of the conventions they held
2016, PA goes for Trump, not Hillary
2020, they match
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longviewmo wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:58 am
earthling wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:28 pm Wouldn't they select a purple/questionable state in the end? MO is pretty much a GOP lock at this point, even if someone nuttier than Trump nominated. Georgia is a major GOP concern right now, and AZ.
Does the convention actually have any effect on a state’s vote?

2004, New York goes for Kerry, not Bush
2008, Minnesota goes for Obama, not McCain
2012, NC and FL voted opposite of the conventions they held
2016, PA goes for Trump, not Hillary
2020, they match
Maybe ~100 years ago when they would have put people you couldn't otherwise get information from in your city.
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Goonies wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:52 pm Just saw the thread on KC Reddit looks like the crying has already started.
Twitter is even worse.
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The way politics is right now, even hints of trying to stir it up in this thread, this isn't worth it to me. Either party.
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KCPowercat wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:48 am The way politics is right now, even hints of trying to stir it up in this thread, this isn't worth it to me. Either party.
That was the argument I made as well. I’d rather we have neither convention. Companies are getting to the point where they’ll pull $ from places merely for political affiliation, this is a time to be a purple metro, and be as neutral as possible IMO
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