From a distance the panels do not seem quite so yellow. Up close its like some sort of fast food franchise. I think a few years of weathering and pollution patina may soften them. The sides of the KCPA are already discolored and stained and it has not even been a decade yet.
I just cannot believe the color is what the architects truly intended. Like maybe the manufacturer made a big mistake with the tinting mixture. So many other projects did a great job of matching the synthetic(cheaper) cladding to natural limestone(the KCPA, the Whitaker Courthouse). Not so the Federal Reserve as it is actual limestone.
So many other projects did a great job of matching the synthetic(cheaper) cladding to natural limestone(the KCPA, the Whitaker Courthouse). Not so the Federal Reserve as it is actual limestone.
The new hotel will really help the ballroom tie into downtown. I have always liked those huge grey columns along the entrance to the ballroom, but they always faced nothing. Now that part of the convention center opens up toward the hotel complex. The grey paneling in the hotel also ties in nicely with the convention center and ballroom.
GRID wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pmIt's so yellow.
It's a bad camera exposure, it's not really that yellow
Cool, I was wondering if that was just the photo or if it looks different in real life.
I think this shot represents better what it looks like in real life. It's pretty light, but definitely not yellow. Not sure what happened with that other photo.
If those are precast, look at the panels on the PAC to get a sense of how they may age.
To my eye, the panels on the PAC look like a much more accurate facsimile of limestone.
I wish the panels on the hotel looked like those.
Right. That was more about how the panels will stain or discolor over time.
And... thank you for the compliment on the PAC panel color. Years ago, a couple of us walked all over downtown with large (and heavy) precast samples and held them up to various limestone buildings to get the color and tone right (or at least narrow the options and send them to Safdie). I suspect the architects of the hotel did something similar. You have to get a bit lucky because the time of day and time of year changes a lot about how the colors look. At the time I thought the PAC color might have been too orange over such a large facade. I'm glad it worked out, but I do think the color has lightened over time, and some staining has muted the color underneath.
And... thank you for the compliment on the PAC panel color. Years ago, a couple of us walked all over downtown with large (and heavy) precast samples and held them up to various limestone buildings to get the color and tone right (or at least narrow the options and send them to Safdie). I suspect the architects of the hotel did something similar. You have to get a bit lucky because the time of day and time of year changes a lot about how the colors look. At the time I thought the PAC color might have been too orange over such a large facade. I'm glad it worked out, but I do think the color has lightened over time, and some staining has muted the color underneath.
Very cool. You're welcome, and thanks for this interesting background on the design process! I'd love to see more use of limestone or limestone-look materials in downtown new construction. Kind of a signature material for the region, from the river bluffs, to the deco towers downtown, to the stone walls and shirtwaists in midtown. Still a very attractive, solid and timeless look when done right.
It's a bad camera exposure, it's not really that yellow
Cool, I was wondering if that was just the photo or if it looks different in real life.
I think this shot represents better what it looks like in real life. It's pretty light, but definitely not yellow. Not sure what happened with that other photo.
That looks pretty good. The glass is really nice and contrasting.