Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Post by DaveKCMO » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:51 am

earthling wrote:While I wouldn't be entirely against a downtown stadium, more hotels/residents/offices would be a better use of space. The TSC location is poor though.
I'm sure you'd be against it when the inevitable ask for public subsidy is revealed.

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Post by earthling » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:53 am

Likely.

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Post by WoodDraw » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:12 pm

I think the Royals missed their opportunity for a new stadium downtown. And I'm not in love with any of the locations proposed anyway.

I'm not sure you could get to 50% these days even if you only asked the urban core.

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Post by warwickland » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:35 pm

i've always thought that a new stadium should be in the sort of south/southeast corner of the crossroads where there is an offensive amount of almost nothing but parking lots. it would be within walking distance of vastly underutilized, extant parking/parking garages and some transit, including now the new streetcar...and lots of bars/restaurants.

there would be a wonderful view of the kc skyline + vital connectivity yet not intrude on the higher use potential of the loop...

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Post by StL_Dan » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:05 pm

This is exactly where I have always envisioned a downtown stadium in KC being built. Not sure why there are high rises directly north of the stadium in your rendering cutting off the view of downtown, but, otherwise it's exactly as I've envisioned it since working near Wash Park back in the late 90's/early 2000's.
normalthings wrote:2005 Royals Washington Park Site Overview
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My 2018 Updated Renderings

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View from the bottom of the memorial
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Union Hill Aerial
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Northeast Aerial
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Please let me know what you think of this. Suggestions are welcomed. I could make something like this for the Northloop as well.

The stadium itself is very similar to Wrigley in Chicago. A lack of horizontal space is combatted by moving support areas and such(kitchens, dinning rooms, etc) below grade. The site has a lot of below grade space that can be utilized for such purposes.

I removed the game day plaza to allow for more seating and hotels/apartments/office spaces and associated spaces. Every potential revenue producing space must be capitalized on inorder to make the financing for this project work.

Why this site?:
1. The land is already owned by KCMO and Union Station.
2. No highway removal is required to get this going, unlike the northloop site.
3.The parcels included in my plan are hard to activate, unlike the North loop which would already have been built on by now.
5. I believe a Northloop stadium would turn into a sprawling suburban site in a prime downtown location. The limitations of the Washington Park site make sure the stadium and associated structures do not sprawl.

Worries: Traffic is definitely a concern at this site. Main should be closed to cars on game day to 1. preserve streetcar performance and 2. serve as a sort of pedestrian zone. This plan relies on a streetcar expansion, bussing, and hopefully LR to make the car problem manageable.

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Post by normalthings » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:52 am

I included the high rises as a way for the park to get revenues from alternative sources.

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Post by flyingember » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:44 am

Obviously that site won’t happen because neither the city or Union Station own all the land/buildings but the idea of adding new buildings to go with a stadium isn’t a bad idea. I seem to recall seeing this idea in a concept stadium somewhere

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Re: Would you like to see the Royals move to a downtown stadium?

Post by StL_Dan » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:26 pm

If that is what it takes to get one done, I’d be all for it.

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